Yeah no

One more big piece

Berard does absolutely nothing for us and he isn’t big enough for Verbeek — guy is valueless to Anaheim

Is Vatrano Pasta all the sudden? You guys are crazy with your evaluations. With all due respect. His numbers are bit skewed because of PP. He won’t play 1PP with us

It isn’t a huge piece. You need LHD?

LHD is the last thing we need

We also don’t need to trade Vatrano, we only will if we get a big return

You are tho lol. First rders are are gold. Verbeek was at the game, so maaaaybe he was looking at Edstrom (that’s possible) or Rempe (less likely)

Yeah a 1st next year — that’s more like copper, not gold

I would love Rempe myself though — guys electric

lol 1st aren’t gold this year. Especially a late 1st, this draft is awful. We will just keep Vatrano if these are the offers.

Capitals accept

They could do this years first. Just that Dolan wants to keep it for the Sphere thing (so they say). I just think your expectations on a return are a little high. He’s been a PP hog for the most part. Don’t get me wrong, he fits our first line like glove, but his stats are a bit skewed

They could add to it, I’m just a guy haha makes no sense to keep him if you’re rebuilding.
I mean next year sure it’s the same situation but things could happen and you could get nothing

Caps should accept unless they get an offer for a first for Dowd elsewhere. I really think someone will end up paying a first, but this is fine.

If you threw in Berard instead of the 4th (assuming the Ducks deal doesn't happen) I'd be fully on board. The more I look into him, the more interested I am.

There’s definitely room to negotiate on this one. Is dowd back soon? I know he was banged up

Very likely yes. He's listed as day to day, he got hit in the head in the NJ game about a week ago. He's already skating, I don't know if he shed the non-contact jersey yet.

How are his stats "a bit skewed"? One third of his points are power-play points, just like the top four scorers on your team (Panarin, Kreider, Trochek and Zibanejad). And you can't say that this inflates Frankies numbers because the Anaheim power play is one of the worst in the League.

The problem with a Rangers trade is that we want a current first and a RW or RD prospect for him, and all are difficult for you to supply. We understand your desire to hang onto the 2024 pick, but postponing the first just elevates our desire to get a good prospect fit. And you clearly don't have a good RD prospect in the pipeline, and as for RW, Lamb and Pajuniemi are too little and Perreault is obviously too much. Once you start talking about LW prospects, we're in a posture of settling rather than getting what we want.

A 2025 first and Brody Lamb would be a great package for Adam Henrique at $2,912,500. It's not enough for Frankie Vatrano with one more season on his ticket.

As the other guy said, Ducks absolutely do not need LHD. We mayybe could use a young stay at home RHD prospect, but biggest need is offensive wingers with a good shot. Issue with Berard is Verbeek has gone out of his way to avoid players who are under 6 foot. In the two+ years he's been GM he hasn't traded or drafted a single sub-6ft player - I don't think the return value for Vatrano is too far off but Verbeek just won't be interested if he isn't getting prospect with some size.

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I get they want size and all but these guys are good, Berard. Sykora too. Both of them I think could transition to RW, it can’t be all that difficult to do that. Sykora in particular has a motor that never stops apparently. Verbeek will hurt himself and org by limiting himself to one type of guy

Vatrano has my heart trust me lol I loved him when he was here, but he wouldn’t be utilized the same way here, probably PP2 so that’s what I mean by skewed. Hes PP1 there. Which is fine but I think his value takes a hit if you consider what teams are trading for him (contenders) where he wouldn’t be on PP1 for most teams. I’m not trying to slight the guy at all

Like I said earlier, Edstrom is 6’7 so he could be the guy you’re looking for in that case. He actually can play too