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Buch

Created by: SweetRevenge19
Team: 2023-24 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 22, 2024
Published: Mar. 3, 2024
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  1. Holl, Justin
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (DET)
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$81,930,973$0$3,350,000$1,569,027
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
LW, RW, C
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UFA - 2
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NTC
UFA - 8
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$5,100,000$5,100,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$825,000$825,000
C
RFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,460,000$1,460,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,343,750$2,343,750
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$4,125,000$4,125,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Mar. 3 at 7:22 p.m.
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mokumboi
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Yeah, that doesn't even get considered.
Mar. 3 at 7:42 p.m.
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I don't see any reason for Armstrong to pull the trigger and not wait here. Don't really see where Breggren fits in long term, and while i think most would be ok with Fabbri coming back in a Buch trade, i'm not putting any value on him doing so. Add Willander and a 2nd (down the road) and I would pull the trigger if i were doug
Mar. 3 at 7:45 p.m.
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I can't see us getting out from under Holl that easy but I hope. They can get better for buchnevich.
Mar. 3 at 10:47 p.m.
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Sabres pass
Mar. 4 at 9:37 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
Yeah, that doesn't even get considered.


Quoting: AC14
I don't see any reason for Armstrong to pull the trigger and not wait here. Don't really see where Breggren fits in long term, and while i think most would be ok with Fabbri coming back in a Buch trade, i'm not putting any value on him doing so. Add Willander and a 2nd (down the road) and I would pull the trigger if i were doug

I don’t know why he wouldn’t fit in with the Blues long term, he is quality prospect with a lot of team control left. Berggren is NHL ready now and has shown he’s prime to net 20 goals with NHL full season. With Kane, Cat, and Fabbri already tho, the wings can’t put more small wingers in the lineup rn that don’t kill penalties for us which to me is the only reason he’s not on the roster now along with still being on a two way contract. If he’s not dealt in a deal for winger with size or to upgrade RD, he replaces Fabbri in the lineup next year for Wings. I can understand your position for the wings needing to add and would add future 2nd, but I feel value is not far off already from other comp deals made. Adding Willander and a second to Berggren and a first would be overpay for one player with one year before likely testing UFA. I understand the need to get a haul back for Buch tho
Mar. 4 at 9:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Jfstompers
I can't see us getting out from under Holl that easy but I hope. They can get better for buchnevich.

One can dream
Mar. 4 at 9:39 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
Yeah, that doesn't even get considered.


Ehh... Have you seen Armstrong's trade history with Yzerman? tears of joy
Mar. 4 at 10:26 p.m.
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Quoting: SweetRevenge19
I don’t know why he wouldn’t fit in with the Blues long term, he is quality prospect with a lot of team control left. Berggren is NHL ready now and has shown he’s prime to net 20 goals with NHL full season. With Kane, Cat, and Fabbri already tho, the wings can’t put more small wingers in the lineup rn that don’t kill penalties for us which to me is the only reason he’s not on the roster now along with still being on a two way contract. If he’s not dealt in a deal for winger with size or to upgrade RD, he replaces Fabbri in the lineup next year for Wings. I can understand your position for the wings needing to add and would add future 2nd, but I feel value is not far off already from other comp deals made. Adding Willander and a second to Berggren and a first would be overpay for one player with one year before likely testing UFA. I understand the need to get a haul back for Buch tho


Because of the way our young players are situated. Out forward group is pretty strong and 3/9 top 9 spots are pretty surefire locked up. We don’t need a scoring only RW. The draw to Buch is how complete of a game he plays. I would probably take a lesser ceiling prospect that plays a more complete game than Breggren as opposed to Breggren.

In all reality though we need defenseman in the 1-2 year range away that look to be able to help and NHL team.
Mar. 4 at 10:36 p.m.
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Quoting: SweetRevenge19
I don’t know why he wouldn’t fit in with the Blues long term, he is quality prospect with a lot of team control left. Berggren is NHL ready now and has shown he’s prime to net 20 goals with NHL full season. With Kane, Cat, and Fabbri already tho, the wings can’t put more small wingers in the lineup rn that don’t kill penalties for us which to me is the only reason he’s not on the roster now along with still being on a two way contract. If he’s not dealt in a deal for winger with size or to upgrade RD, he replaces Fabbri in the lineup next year for Wings. I can understand your position for the wings needing to add and would add future 2nd, but I feel value is not far off already from other comp deals made. Adding Willander and a second to Berggren and a first would be overpay for one player with one year before likely testing UFA. I understand the need to get a haul back for Buch tho


With all due respect, the over quota standing of DET's wing stable is about the last of any concerns in STL. You've offered what you want to give up, not what the Blues would want.
Mar. 4 at 10:39 p.m.
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Quoting: FriendlyGhost
Ehh... Have you seen Armstrong's trade history with Yzerman? tears of joy


Yeah. So? Half the league would lap that offer, even in summer. We lose a legit top line winger, take Bobby Eyebrows (who we don't need in any way) so we don;t even gain much cap space... none of it even makes sense for the Blues. The Leddy trade was a horror show, but at least in theory it made sense. The Fabbri trade was a favor to Fabbri, so the return didn't matter. They did the same for Bortuzzo this season. It all means nothing today. Leddy and Fabbri ain't Buch.
 
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