Uhhh what lmao

For both of them the trade begins with Mercer, Holtz, and the picks lmao

100% it would. Minimum what I’d want back:

Mercer
Holtz
2024 1st
2025 2nd
2026 3rd

That still probably isn't enough lol

Delusional expectations

Your best offer would probably be Bahl and a 2nd based on previous interactions with you lol

2025 1st+Bahl+3rd/Hatakka for a rental Hanifin
2024 1st+2nd+Casey (or 1st+1st+2nd+3rd if you prefer picks) for Andersson.

You can't get someone that's unavailable without giving someone up that's unavailable and any conversation for Andersson begins with Mercer and if he isn't included the Flames immediately hang up.

As for a rental Hanifin that is pretty good value but not enough if there is an extension in place which I think there will be soon enough (...hopefully)

Extension in place isn't a real thing that increases the value in any meaningful way. Either you get a better offer from a team or you don't.

Mercer for Andersson 1 for 1 if you want that. Ofc NJD has no real need for Andersson considering Hamilton comes back next season so depends on what we could sell Marino for, or Andersson+Hanifin for Marino+Mercer

That easily gets declined, not even close to fair value for both dmen, Mercer alone isn't worth Andersson and that gap isn't made up by Marino especially with Hanifin included, that's just pure delusion.

By extension in place I mean that he communicates to the team that he is willing to sign an extension there which would give the GM security in any potential trades which logically increases his value and betters our position as the one selling him, the same thing happened with Tkachuk.

If it is a pure rental trade then sure that value is fine but if bidding occurs between teams he's willing to sign with, then the value becomes much better than your offer.

You seem to undervalue young ELCs vastly. Which is okay. But stop asking for them.

Mercer wasn't on the table for Meier, he isn't on the table for Markstrom. Again, I am HAPPY to pay multiple 1sts instead of Mercer. But you can't demand Mercer and then not value Mercer at the same time.

Mercer for Andersson (or I can sub in 1st+1st+2nd+3rd or equivalent in futures, Holtz+1st, Casey+1st+2nd)
Marino for Hanifin (4 years of cheap term, if you don't want him he can be shipped off to buffalo or toronto or anywhere else for futures instead which you can have)

I am valuing Mercer which is why i'm even entertaining a discussion for a defencemen who isn't available but the fact is that he's been vastly disappointing this season and he has to be re-signed this season and Andersson is far too valuable to trade for a winger (or part-time center if you prefer), and at the end of the day Andersson is likely the Flames next captain and most valuable player and to pry him from us you have to knock our expectations out of the park and Mercer alone doesn't get that done.

Again, Marino for Hanifin isn't good value for the Flames maybe if the assets you got for him were equal to a mid first round pick and a good young prospect but I somehow doubt you'll get that from another team, although I may be wrong on that one because I haven't seen Marino perform much this year.