Flyers decline

Sharks decline. Takes more than a 5th to dump Holl.

Rather keep Hathaway than trade him for almost double salary Fabbri.

Take out Husso

What's the reason? Is it that he's younger or scores more? Even while injured he doubled Hathaway's numbers. Seems like a pretty good upgrade for the Flyers.

Double the scoring for 1/3 more cost.

He’s not worth double the salary of Hathaway and Hathaway plays the role the flyers need him to perfectly. Fabbri would just be another 3rd line that they have plenty of

That's what I'm trying to do. But no Husso no draft picks. That's where the value lies.

Math ain't your strong point clearly, 2,35M vs 4M. And as mentioned, we have enough 3rd line "scorers". Hathaway brings grit and plays PK aswell. Something you can't say about Fabbri.

Obviously you'd need to change things in your ACGM to be cap compliant, but if you took out the 4th rounder, would you consider retaining on Husso for 1 year? Wallinder and a 1st is solid value, but the main reasons to move Ully would be to free up a big chunk of cap space for this offseason and to move up in the 2024 draft. This deal does not do either of those things, but the overall value is better than most proposals I have seen. But maybe some retention on Husso makes it more palatable for the Bs? Maybe you could throw the 4th to another team to do the retention for you. I'd love to see him at 3.25m or less, but that much retention in the offseason probably costs more than a 4th.

I would gladly involve a third party to make it work. My initial build had a half retention, but I couldn't get a full roster that way. I know that a true hockey trade would involve so discomfort from both teams, that's just how it works.

My perspective is wallinder and a 2nd would net Ullmark. The difference between the first and the second is Boston’s payment for taking Husso.

Some discomfort for Boston's side as things stand would be missing a true top 6 F next year due to lack of cap space, paying 4.75m for a backup, and possibly losing the current heir apparent backup on waivers (his eligibility is done after this season). It makes the team worse in the short term due to cap and possibly in the long term if Bussi could have been a cheap long term backup.

Is that worth Wallinder and a 1st? Possibly, but with some retention it becomes much more palatable because it gives the Bruins more options, even including burying Husso to keep Bussi. 3rd party retaining gets this over the finish line. Maybe Wings and Bruins both send a pick to the retaining team.

See my most recent comment above for my thoughts on why we need retention. Without it, we probably lose Bussi and can't afford to sign a top 6 F next year. I think it kills the deal. But we can just get a 3rd party to retain to save it.

I think we could keep Bussi as a 23rd man on the roster or even bury Husso if we wanted.

It doesn’t impact the ability to secure a top forward at all, but it does impact secondary moves to build depth with more than $2m or less players.

I do think it’s feasible to argue whether the difference between a first and second is worth taking Husso.

I believe that in an ideal world, we need 2 top 6 F (one for Jake's spot, maybe Jake himself; the other we have platooned 3rd liners all year) and a top 4 LD. Even if we shed Ullmark's salary in full, I think we cannot target top UFAs in all 3 spots and field a competitive roster.

If we bury Husso, that is more than 3.5m in dead cap. To me, that seems far more likely thank carrying ~5.75m in cap space and 2 roster spots for backup goalies right after signing what appers to be a premier starter.

If you do either of those things, I think Don would need to moneyball 1-2 of those roster spots I mentioned, and even that will be much harder compared to this past offseason when good players had their values depressed by the cap crunch.

I believe you are going to see Lysell or Lohrei in one of those spots, but I get why you’d prefer not to add Husso. If it were Wallinder or Buium plus a 2nd, I’d rather have that than include Husso and replace the 2nd with a first,

Yeah, I think I'd do that. I want to see Lohrei start the season on the 3rd pairing and Lysell on the 3rd line, and see if they can work their way up. They should both be regulars next year (I hope!), but hopefully we make them earn their way into the top 4 and top 6 respectively.