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Staal for Soderberg

Created by: HeaveHo
Team: 2017-18 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 25, 2017
Published: Jul. 25, 2017
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Is this enough of a sweetener, along with the actual dollar savings ($14M - $10.6M = $3.4M), to get the Avs to take on Staal’s contract? I don’t know, but it seems to fill a position of need for both teams.

Would Staal waive his NTC to go to Colorado? Of course not. I don’t know why I’m even throwing this trade out there.
Trades
NYR
  1. Söderberg, Carl
COL
  1. Staal, Marc ($2,850,000 retained)
  2. 2018 3rd round pick (NYR)
  3. 2018 4th round pick (NYR)
Buyouts
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$75,000,000$69,524,444$0$4,100,000$5,475,556
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Kreider, Chris
$4,625,000$4,625,000
LW
UFA - 3
Zibanejad, Mika
$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
UFA - 5
Buchnevich, Pavel
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
Zuccarello, Mats
$3,150,000$3,150,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Hayes, Kevin
$2,600,000$2,600,000
C
UFA - 1
Miller, J.T.
$2,750,000$2,750,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Söderberg, Carl
$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Nash, Rick
$3,900,000$3,900,000
LW, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Vesey, Jimmy
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Desharnais, David
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
UFA - 1
Fast, Jesper
$1,850,000$1,850,000
RW
UFA - 3
Grabner, Michael
$1,650,000$1,650,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Puempel, Matt
$725,000$725,000
LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
McDonagh, Ryan
$4,700,000$4,700,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Shattenkirk, Kevin
$6,650,000$6,650,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
Lundqvist, Henrik
$8,500,000$8,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Skjei, Brady
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
Smith, Brendan
$4,350,000$4,350,000
LD/RD, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Pavelec, Ondrej
$1,300,000$1,300,000
G
UFA - 1
Waivers ExemptBereglazov, Alexei
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 2
Holden, Nick
$1,650,000$1,650,000
LD
UFA - 1
Deangelo, Anthony
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
UFA - 2

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Jul. 25, 2017 at 11:58 a.m.
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Barathrum_Obama
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I've said this the last time this was posted:
when you retain money on Staal and take Söderbergs full contract you're dealing from a bad to worse position. make it the other way round and there's some use of this for the Rangers. what's the point on efficiently paying >7M for Söderberg for 3 years?
Jul. 25, 2017 at 12:06 p.m.
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So the theory would be to trade black holes, and since mine is arguably less attractive then the picks are meant to sweeten the deal? Why am i eating money as well?
Jul. 25, 2017 at 12:08 p.m.
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Quoting: SuprDave45
So the theory would be to trade black holes, and since mine is arguably less attractive then the picks are meant to sweeten the deal? Why am i eating money as well?


like I've previously said, I believe Söderberg has some upside left when put in the right environment (i.e. not Colorado) and I could live with him being on the team at 50%
Jul. 25, 2017 at 12:13 p.m.
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HeaveHo
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Quoting: Barathrum_Obama
I've said this the last time this was posted:
when you retain money on Staal and take Söderbergs full contract you're dealing from a bad to worse position. make it the other way round and there's some use of this for the Rangers. what's the point on efficiently paying >7M for Söderberg for 3 years?


I think Soderberg can at least fill a position of need and open up room on the roster to play some of the young LD in the system, like Bereglazov, Graves or Day. I also think Soderberg can get back to being a 40-50 pt, two way center away from Colorado.
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So the theory would be to trade black holes, and since mine is arguably less attractive then the picks are meant to sweeten the deal? Why am i eating money as well?

I think Soderberg is overpaid, but still a useful roster player. Staal on the other hand...
Jul. 25, 2017 at 12:54 p.m.
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Quoting: HeaveHo
Quoting: Barathrum_Obama
I've said this the last time this was posted:
when you retain money on Staal and take Söderbergs full contract you're dealing from a bad to worse position. make it the other way round and there's some use of this for the Rangers. what's the point on efficiently paying >7M for Söderberg for 3 years?


I think Soderberg can at least fill a position of need and open up room on the roster to play some of the young LD in the system, like Bereglazov, Graves or Day. I also think Soderberg can get back to being a 40-50 pt, two way center away from Colorado.
Quoting: SuprDave45
So the theory would be to trade black holes, and since mine is arguably less attractive then the picks are meant to sweeten the deal? Why am i eating money as well?

I think Soderberg is overpaid, but still a useful roster player. Staal on the other hand...


Possibly, if he bounces back, yes I agree. I also think that the disgust for Staal overshadows that he is still an NHL defenseman, albeit a bad/3rd pair one who is disgustingly overpaid. hence I see the picks being the draw, but the money...makes it pointless. I would rather just keep the snow angel machine and my picks.
Jul. 25, 2017 at 12:54 p.m.
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Staal doesn't waive his NMC for COL
 
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