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Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 12:54 a.m.
Thread: marner obviously
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canuckfan98</b></div><div>Well idk who is trading a number 1 centre rn, Nashville needs game breaking offensive talent and Marner would be your best player ever and he would most likely re-sign due to the fact you can offer him 8 years or you do have the cap space to offer 11-11.5 million dollars.

As for the trade package Saros is a given but goalies do not have high trade value in this league idk why but it’s the reality, Sissons is a 3c who can play up once in a while, and Kemmel is a nice top6 RW but he will never be as good as Marner. So in order to get Marner who is a RW you might as well get rid of the RW prospect who gets pushed out the lineup.

A player like Marner being available is rare and only happens once every few years imo Nashville would be smart to jump on it.</div></div>

Trotz won't do that. Goalies don't have much trade value, but that is because goalies of Saros's caliber don't get traded almost ever. To Trotz, Saros might be moved for a big piece like Marner, but the package won't be Saros, one of NSH's top 3 prospects, and one of the few centers they do have for another winger. That package gets moved for a top 5 pick or an already established 1C.

If NSH goes after Marner, Saros might be included, but it won't include other top prospects. It will include picks instead.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 8:30 p.m.
Thread: marner obviously
You have to be kidding with that NSH deal. NSH blocks your number if that is what it takes for Marner. That is a ludicrous ask from NSH perspective for a guy who isn't guaranteed to sign in NSH. The big issue with Marner to NSH is twofold.

1. NSH isn't going to give Marner the money he wants. Marner would have to sign a contract in NSH making the same he is now of 10mil even and have to consider the better taxes his increase. I can't see Marner realistically doing that.

2. Marner is a winger, and NSH has a several talented RW's in system. Are any of them to the caliber of Marner? No, but it becomes a rich get richer situation, and shouldn't be willing to do move arguably their best player in Saros and best assest on top of of one of their best prospects when their need for a top 6 center couldn't be more obvious when NSH send O'Reilly and Sissons as their top 6 centers in the playoffs
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 6:56 p.m.
Thread: Bye Bye Mitchy poo
NSH isn't giving up that for Marner. The big issue with Marner for Saros is twofold.

1. NSH isn't going to give Marner the money he wants. Marner would have to sign a contract in NSH making the same he is now of 10mil even and have to consider the better taxes his increase. I can't see Marner realistically doing that.

2. Marner is a winger, and NSH has a several talented RW's in system. Are any of them to the caliber of Marner? No, but it becomes a rich get richer situation, and shouldn't be willing to do move arguably their best player, and best assest when their need for a top 6 center couldn't be more obvious.

I won't discredit the possibility of something like that happening this off-season, but it's not a move I think NSH makes right now. Some other big moves would have to happen from within NSH before a deal like that could happen
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 5:11 p.m.
Thread: 24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JZ_DAL</b></div><div>are you a NSH fan? it’s weird, alot of ppl tell me (OTT fans) that NSH wouldn’t do it, do you think they’d also take on Korpisalo if we added a pick or Sogaard?

I always tell them NSH doesn’t have a C in there organization to what Norris can be, yes the contract is risky so idk if they’d do it that was my issue</div></div>

I am a NSH fan, but I am also higher on Norris than most, so I am definitely an outlier. I agree with you I think NSH needs a center that has Norris's talent, and I personally be willing to take Norris, even though the contract is risky. I think Norris would fit very well into the system and their wouldn't be pressure for him to immediately come in and be the number 1 because of O'Reilly who could also help mentor him, which he hasn't had in OTT, because the team is so young. The western conference is also a bit less physical than the eastern conference so that would also play to NSH's advantage.

NSH won't take Korpisalo unless you are willing to add something genuinely unreasonable (like OTT's 2024 1st). So, no.

Part of the hesitance I think is that NSH has already seen their fair share of star players who are injury prone and I think many are sensitive to injury issues (Forsberg has played an average of 61 games per season for the last 6 years, this year was the first time he played a full 82 games since his sophomore year in the league).
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 10:33 p.m.
Thread: Next Season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KM87</b></div><div>Saros only has 1yr left before he’s UFA. I don’t see him re-signing in NSH, especially with Askari’s knocking on the door. This is a pretty good deal for 1yr of a goalie &amp; no retention.</div></div>

Trotz has already started contract conversations Saros (started back in October). Trotz has already said he has every intention of signing him him, and if Saros doesn't sign then why would Trotz trade him now? He could hang onto Saros till the deadline and trade him at the deadline instead when he can get more for Saros.

With pick order coming out trading Saros for a middle six forward and 23OA isn't going to be enough for Saros as Trotz has said he wants more for Saros, and I don't see Trotz coming down from that price. NSH has been prepared to throw the bag at Saros, but Trotz has been playing all of the contract/trade discussion and speculation close to the chest.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 6:46 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 8:38 a.m.
Thread: marner ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>leaffanio</b></div><div>that's fair although i think marner's superb defensive game makes him a little more valuable than a typical winger. evangelista is a great prospect who i think could become anywhere from a 60-80pts player but marner is just an echelon above that.

montour could be an interesting pickup for nashville but i think considering you're halfway rebuilding right now getting a #1 rhd through the draft would be the ideal outcome for the preds. by the time you're in a genuine contention window montour would likely be on the downturn.

it really depends on if trotz wants to base his return off current positional need or not, as i think the chances of the preds getting a better return for saros than marner purely from a value perspective is unlikely</div></div>

The piece I would personally like to see as a return for Saros would be Mercer + some picks. Not going to say no outright to Marner, but NSH has 1 top 6 center in system with Svechkov who did really well in his first season in the AHL, and 1 potential top pairing RD in Ufko, but he just finished college and played in his first AHL games this season.

Both are still unrefined and probably need at least 1-2 more years just to get used to the pace of NA pro hockey. Getting Mercer and Montour in my mind would be good as it patches the holes the team needs now while providing a more clear path for succession as time goes on as Josi and Montour will likely go out around the same time making room for Ufko and Molendyk.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 12:52 a.m.
Thread: marner ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>leaffanio</b></div><div>he'd probably take a shave off that since taxes are presumably better in nashville than toronto and he gets to play in a low pressure environment with his buddy ror. lets say he falls between 11-12, why wouldnt nashville give him that? are they up against the cap?</div></div>

NSH might give him 11. NSH has plenty of cap (about 19mil), and taxes are better in NSH, as their is no state income tax, but they have several RW prospects that arent far away or in the case of Evangalista, just finished his rookie season. The bigger thing is that NSH desperately needs a top 6 center and a 1RD, and they really don't have one in either category that will be ready till at least 25-26 to step into those shoes. Because of that, I expect NSH to be in on Montour during the offseason, especially given the Burnette connection. Meaning if Saros is moved it's likely for a center.

I wouldn't rule out Marner, as a line of Forsberg - ROR - Marner sounds great, but I just don't think Trotz pulls the trigger on moving Saros for a player NSH already has an abundance of talent in.