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Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 15, 2018 at 5:35 p.m.
Thread: Montreal Canadiens signed Phillip Danault (3 Years / $3,083,333 AAV)
<strong>HONEST OPINION</strong>

<strong>Yes </strong>- This is contract is good value for 3 years.
<strong>Yes </strong>- Domi's contract is good value for 2 years.
<strong>Yes</strong> - Armia's contract is good value for this year.
<strong>Yes</strong> - Gallagher's contract is good value for 3 more years.

But do you know what Montreal will definitely not be worrying about for the next 3 years? Cap Space.

They're in the middle of a "re-tool" and if everything works out perfectly, they'll be a cup contender again in about....3 Years.

And if things do go perfectly....Danault, Domi, Armia and Gallagher will all be huge contributors to that success.

Which means the best case scenario has all 4 of them receiving massive raises in near future....because they took short-term CapFriendy deals while we had plenty of cap space.

So we can look forward to those pay raises in 3 years....but at the same time:

<strong>Weber </strong>- will be a geriatric care patient making $7,900,000 for another 5 years.
<strong>Price </strong>- may or may not look like Carey Price, but will still be making $10,500,000 for another 5 years.
<strong>Alzner</strong> - will have completed his transformation into a traffic cone, but still making $4,625,000 per year.
<strong>Shaw </strong> - will be the leagues wealthiest 4th line grinder, and still making $3,900,000 per year.
<strong>Mete, Poehling, Kotkaniemi, Juulsen, etc.</strong> will be finished or finishing their ELC's and looking for cash.

So ya....based on the Montreal's current situation....I think Bergy should've tried to get these guys on long-term deals....even if they were more expensive (and he definitely should have locked up the guys with consistent NHL track records....some of them were ripe for long-term discounts).

But if I'm being honest....I don't believe he thought about any of this before negotiating....because they all got signed pretty quick.

And I don't think he has a plan to get rid of the albatross (and future albatross) contracts on the roster....which will only get harder to move with time.

<strong>So now I'm worried that any glimmer of a bright future will eventually force Bergevin to purge that future away.

And I can only guess how those trades will turn out with Bergy at the helm. </strong>
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2018 at 2:25 a.m.
Thread: Is This Reasonable Or Am I Crazy?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>Have to give sergachev and point to Ottawa.</div></div>

You can swap Sergachev for Foote in the trade if need be, but Yzerman isn't giving up Point in a Karlsson deal. If the Senators refuse without Point, then the deal is off. But, the Senators need to trade Karlsson since he's not going to re-sign there, so they would lose him for free if they don't. This package is better than what any other team is offering, so the Senators can choose between that, or one more year of Karlsson before he leaves in free agency. The Lightning's defense is fine to contend for a Cup without Karlsson, though it improves significantly with him; meanwhile, they don't have any legitimate shutdown center to replace Point. Yzerman doesn't seem willing to trade Point, and the fact that the talks haven't ended suggests that the Senators are actually willing to go through with this.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kosterjr</b></div><div>How are you going to pay Skinner, Point, Kucherov, Sergachev, Karlsson, and Vas over the next 2 yrs?</div></div>

Trade Johnson and Miller, try to dump Callahan, let Coburn and Girardi walk, and for the next season they could have over $20m in cap space to add to Skinner, Point, Kucherov, Karlsson, and Gourde, and to find cheap replacements for lost players (mostly in the form of AHL call-ups on ELCs). That should be more than enough, especially if they can get people to agree to a slight discount to be on a state tax-free Cup contending team. The salary cap will also go way up due to Seattle before they have to worry about Vasilevskiy and Sergachev. If it's really not manageable, they could trade one of their star players for a nice return.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shifttee</b></div><div>How did we get Carey Price a 2nd and a 3rd for Skinner Darling and a first?

Thanks I guess

We still need a First line Center though

How bout you add Duchene from Ottawa and we'll send you Faulk</div></div>

I don't think Ottawa gives Duchene for that package. If they're already getting rid of Karlsson and Ryan, they need to stay above the cap floor, so they might not want to give away Duchene at all, but if they do, it takes more than we can give. If Johnson will waive his NTC, we could add him to the trade if you add Faulk (and that would fit under the cap. He's more of a #2C, though, I'm not sure if he's what you would need. If you accept that, our defensive pairings could be:

Hedman-Karlsson
McDonagh-Sergachev
Girardi-Faulk

We wouldn't necessarily be able to maintain that with the cap and an expansion draft coming up, but it would make us heavy Cup favorites and we have to trade Johnson anyway to stay under the cap. I'm not sure if Carolina gives Faulk, Skinner, Darling, and a 1st for Price, Johnson, a 2nd, and a 3rd.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Belly</b></div><div>Dont think Montreal is going to pay Price 28 000 000 over the next 8 years to play in another team, giving the poor return</div></div>

I was wondering about that. Does Carolina still accept with no cap retention? If Carolina will do Faulk, Skinner, Darling, and a 1st for Price (no retention), Johnson, a 2nd, and a 3rd, and every other team will accept (with Foote and Sergachev swapped if necessary for the Senators but otherwise that seems similar to what they're probably going to get), the Lightning become a legitimate super team.