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Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 13, 2021 at 11:43 a.m.
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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 21, 2021 at 7:54 p.m.
Thread: Dubas on the hot seat
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TrueCanuck</b></div><div>Thanks for making my point exactly - no one on the exposed list is worth a 1st and a 3rd to additionally protect (not to mention Toronto doesn't have those picks so it becomes a top prospect then). &amp; that's exactly what Dubas thought that it wasn't worth it - but that was Seattle's price. If Dubas didn't meet it, than Seattle takes who they want. &amp; Kerfoot proved to be a valuable depth piece that can perform in the playoffs. So instead of giving up a 1st and a 3rd (or equivalent value that Seattle wanted), Dubas gave up a prospect that's worth maybe an early 3rd, and a 7th to get someone that he though Seattle would take, this not losing anyone from his roster. So would you rather paying a 1st and a 3rd or a 3rd and a 7th to keep your roster in tact that just finished 6th overall? I know which one smart GM's would pick.

As for losing Kerfoot or Holl, you're thinking too linear - as most users on here do. If they lose Kerfoot, it's also losing a 3C that plays a solid 2way game. How do you plan to replace that? There's not one in free agency that can do the same job for cheaper, and a trade will cost more than a 1st and a 3rd (which would have been the price to protect Kerfoot) - so you're either paying Seattle to let Toronto keep Kerfoot or you're paying more to find his replacement. Same goes for Holl - you think losing a top 4 defenceman (not Holl's skill but that's his role on Toronto) is gonna come cheaper than Hallander and a 7th? You absolutely nuts if you think it would. Defence options in free agency would cost far more than Holl's $2M cap hit, and a trade would be an insane price. So what option is there for a top 4 defence in that situation?

Kerfoot may be trade bait this off-season so it's worth keeping him around for that too. His contract is enticing because he makes less than his cap hit so for teams that have a lower budget he's more valuable - and with Toronto's connection to Arizona with Garland and Kuemper, Kerfoot could very well be a piece in that trade for them.

Bottom line is that it's much smarter to give up the value of a 3rd and 7th than a 1st and 3rd to keep your roster the same - McCann was never on the roster. His play won't be lost and won't affect the team. People just can't give GM's credit for thinking outside the box every now and then, but this was actually one of the smarter moves a GM has pulled off in awhile.</div></div>


That’s where we differ, I would like to see this move as Hallander and a 7th to keep Kerfoot but knowing that this organization values Justin Holl more than Kerfoot and Jared McCann combined is something I don’t agree with.

If Kerfoot is still moved, the value must exceed Hallander+7th, or this is an lose no matter how you look at it.

They still have Kerfoot yes, but when you acquire McCann, you protect him over the guy that happens to play 4D. Saying Hallander+7th is the loss is not a good way of looking it. The Leafs made a poor decision valuing Holl over McCann/Kerfoot from an asset value perspective.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 21, 2021 at 5:21 p.m.