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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 17, 2017 at 1:51 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 14, 2017 at 8:18 p.m.
Thread: Baby Steps
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>orignalsix</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LobsterMagnet19</b></div><div>

Is this all you do all day?

FWIW that trade is right on par with the value that comparable players have brought back in trade.</div></div>

So Duchene with 6m contract and only 2 years left and his 41 points is worth Hanifan and his 29 points from his Dman position, 5 more years of control and makes only about 1m a year. Now tell me why is Duchene such a great value to the budget minded Canes? And being subjective on the Duchene thread, he has never shown he can left an out of the play offs team to success. And Canes have to throw in a first rounder too.
Canes would be much better off to sign a UFA for 5m, keep Hanifan and their pick.</div></div>


Singling out 1 season of an 8 year NHL player's career, when he's on the worst roster in 20 years and often playing with a PTO on one wing and a waiver pickup on the other doesn't seem like a great metric for evaluating a trade in reality. It is, however, a great framework for circle-jerking around. Still in his prime production years, Duchene's track record of success (multiple Team CAN appearances, multiple All-Star appearances, multiple .9+ PPG seasons) far outweighs 30 bad games on a team that was out of the playoffs in December (before that Duchene was actually on a 30g pace again). Now that's a big ticket item in the NHL, as evidenced by the fact that you very rarely see players like that traded.

Hanifin is a big ticket item too, but lets not go nuts here. 1/3 of his points that you're touting with no context came on CAR's pretty avg power play (meanwhile Duchene's production dipped hard without many PP points on the league's worst PP unit). 2nd, Noah Hanifin spent the vast majority of the season logging limited minutes while sheltered. Is there a ton of potential in the kid? Of course. Is he already a bonafide stud D? Not at all. There's still plenty of risk involved in Hanifin not living up to that potential.

So lets sum it up. The Hurricanes would be looking to pick up the 2nd best offensive player in the history of their franchise at a time where they have an exceptionally deep D pipeline and can afford the loss of Hanifin, who would be instantly replaced within their system. While the Avs are looking to pick up a potential rebuild defenseman for a franchise that's struggled greatly to produce them, while giving up an all star calibre F who they replace through their own system in Jost. Now we can quibble about the add ins and add ons on each side and that's cool. I think in a deal like this the Avs would likely have to add Chris Bigras to stymie the loss of Hanifin. All that said, pretending that Hanifin for Duchene makes no sense on its face is ridiculous. It's an obvious quality fit for both sides in position, value, age, and win window. Dismissing it out of hand is ridiculous.