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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2022 at 3:09 p.m.
Thread: Better Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hii</b></div><div>Not really, there isn't a spot on the roster where I see Connor Brown fitting into the long term plans.

Though in all honesty, I think Ottawa found it's next Connor Brown in Matthew Joseph and that Joseph will end up replacing Brown for the duration his stay.</div></div>

It remains to be seen if Joseph can be as good defensively while producing as much as Brown at Even Strength or on the PK. This is extremely valuable and not something I think a lot of people really understand

A Formenton - Pinto - Brown 3rd line could IDEAL and the kind of 3rd line that would push us above competition. We're not going to outplay contending teams with the power of our top-6. They have star/high end players too and some have the elite ones

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hullsy09</b></div><div>Does Zaitsev do anything good?</div></div>

Shelter him on your 3rd pair against average competition and he would do "ok". Need to pair with a good passer. The higher the role above that you will give him, the bigger detriment he will be.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 31, 2022 at 12:45 p.m.
Thread: Trade with Senators for 7OA and Stars 18OA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gaudetster</b></div><div>I dont believe the value is off like you say. Murray has negative value due to contract. If I was MTL I would decline Murray and White for Anderson retained straight up. But lets say this is accepted by montreal making the trade a 1st 2nd Norlinder Mysak (who are both quality prospects) and Allen for the 7OA. Ottawa probably wins this trade.</div></div>

Do they though, they don't need a goalie (Forsberg and Gustavsson) is a fine tandem. Anderson is not needed and is a determent. (You're example of a trade is horrible (White + Murray = Anderson) Because of his contract. While Norlinder and Mysak are okay prospects the one that Ottawa will draft with the pick (if they keep it) will be far better and fit and work better than Anderson. The late first adds nothing because it is likely a similar prospect to Norlinder and Mysak. The second does nothing. Murray is not really a cap dump cause he will likely fit on LTIR for most of the season and White's buyout is peanuts so he doesn't have negative value.

Montreal wins the trade.

(They get ride of a determental contract in the long term and gain a top prospect while getting ride of some decent prospects.

Quality &gt; Quantity.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsMay 27, 2022 at 1:28 p.m.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsMay 27, 2022 at 10:48 a.m.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsMay 20, 2022 at 10:57 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 18, 2022 at 7:26 p.m.
Thread: I dont hate it
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jnowariak</b></div><div>OK, but is he tho? Dude is 28, UFA at the end of the year and never had a 50 pt season.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jnowariak</b></div><div>No, lehkonen had a positive rate in MTL, Coleman one in NJD, and Copp (who I don’t see as a great comp here) in WPG. xGF% accounts for how well you’re able to “tilt” the ice, good defensive players that start in their zone either get the puck or keep the other team to bad chances. That’s measured.

And as for future deals, that is absolutely factored in. Coleman, Goodrow, Hagel, and Lehkonen got firsts because they were team controlled for 2 or more seasons when the trade was made. And let’s say Copp is a comparable, he didn’t receive a first as a UFA.</div></div>

Youre right, thats why they got 1sts+

Had CBrown been traded at the deadline last year, for a playoffs + another entire season, he would have been 1st+ as well.

A full season of CBrown to a contender expecting their pick to be in the mid-late 20s is worth a 1st, and renttion adds the "+"

Consider Coleman. He had 1 additional year left on his contract when he was traded. He was being paid 1.8M. (Same as CBrown in this scenario)
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 18, 2022 at 2:21 p.m.
Thread: I dont hate it
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jnowariak</b></div><div>Brown is 28 and going to UFA, the other guys were 24 with team control when they moved for 1sts. Not to mention their on ice impacts, as measured by xGF%, we’re firmly in the above 50 where Brown is not.

All of those guys will get term and about 5 mil on their UFA deal. Would you give 5 mil over 6 years to Brown next year? If so, we disagree firmly on what he brings.</div></div>

Cowling's answer will be sufficient, saves me time thanks

Oh and please verify your facts when arguing with me lol

Coleman was 28 y/o
Lehkonen was 26 y/o
Copp was 27 y/o

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Cowling</b></div><div>You can't argue based of hypothetical futures that they will probably get 5 mill and not Brown. They're xGF% are higher because they are on better teams, Brown often starts in the defensive zone and gets tough matchups while being on a bottom 10 team all year.</div></div>

Bottom-5* team