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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 27, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.
Thread: Canes and Leafs fans hows this
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchJr</b></div><div>Oh good to know I’m talking with an educated expert. What is the difference then between - takeaways, giveaways and blocked shots and high danger chances against? You won’t find any of these ‘stats’ in standards stats the nhl publishes?</div></div>

takeaway - did he take the puck away (poke check or hit the guy off the puck)

giveaway - did he have the puck taken away

blocked shots - did he block the shot

those are strict binary outcomes. imo, giveaways are the most important d-men stats because most of the time, a d-man is the last thing between a opponent and the goalie. If he gets that taken away close to the blue line trying to keep it in the off. zone, then thats a 1 on 0, 2 on 0, ect. If he gets it taken on the rush, then the other d-man is back and (hopefully) a forward is covering for him. But its still a more dangerous rush

hdca (which is mostly used for grading lines instead of individual players) - unblocked shots within a certain distance to the goal or shots off the rush/off a rebound. How dangerous a shot really is comes down to whose shooting it. Its a lot different if McDavid is taking that shot or if Puljujarvi or Ho-Sang is taking that shot. I think hdc is a good stat for offense tho
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 27, 2023 at 11:20 a.m.
Thread: Canes and Leafs fans hows this
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchJr</b></div><div>Wait, you just stated advanced metrics shouldn’t be used because you make them ‘say anything you want’ and then you randomly used takeaways and blocked shots to support what you want 😅; did you sense the irony at all when you wrote that 😂? Another advanced stat Pesce gives up ~20% more hdca/minute (high danger chances against) than Brodie. Feel free to pump pesce’s tires all you want (I ain’t buying it; however I acknowledge he’s a good defenseman) - but categorizing Brodie as anything other than an elite defensive dman is just homerism run amok</div></div>

Giveaways, takeaways, and blocked shots are not advanced metrics. I never said that they shouldnt be used, im saying that real stats should be weighted higher. You use advanced metrics too much, you end up like the A's in moneyball.

But what do I know? Im only about to graduate with a bachelors in stats
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 27, 2023 at 10:38 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 26, 2023 at 3:34 p.m.
Thread: 8 MORE YEARS
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Falcon_talon</b></div><div>thats a joke Slavin - Tony almost got Noris winning numbers the last time Tony was here and Slavin works wonders when he's got an offensively minded pair. The ignorant comment you made is just laughable . And I don't wanna deal with Leafs fans screamming in my ear just because I didn't give them Necas + 3 1sts for Nylander. So yes its a choice and Sheife is the cheapper and better opption</div></div>

He has an offensive minded partner thats better defensively than tony. Slavin-Burns aint goin anywhere.

Would rather trade Teuvo for picks and sign Tarasenko than trade for Scheifele. I dont think Scheifele would be good in the locker room but they said the same about tony and that was wrong so maybe but why risk it