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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 4, 2020 at 4:04 p.m.
Thread: The hunt for depth
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>It's the price you have to pay for the last year of the contract to be gone. Schneider is 2 years, Lucic is 3. A 2nd is the approximate cost of the salary difference.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>It's the price you have to pay for the last year of the contract to be gone. Schneider is 2 years, Lucic is 3. A 2nd is the approximate cost of the salary difference.</div></div>

The price you have to pay is a higher cap hit for 2 years instead of 3 for a player that wont even be playing plus a 2nd and a 7th?

With the final year of Lucic's contract set to see him play his last season for just 1M out of the 42M, and the fact he's already mentioned this year that he contemplated retirement. Tre would have to be an idiot to make that trade.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 3, 2020 at 2:40 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 2, 2020 at 5:13 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 29, 2020 at 10:50 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 28, 2020 at 2:12 p.m.
Thread: If Flames Miss Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jdfitz77</b></div><div>Be all that as it may...
I’ll still bet he wants that paycheck. Especially if he has to do nothing to get it
It’s a lot of $$$ to walk away from
Almost never happens</div></div>

I think guys are starting to realize they can retire early, live good for the rest of their life and not have to worry about money because they already have 8 figures in the bank account. They have more money than the average person will ever make over working for 45 years.

He's still got a role to play of being a tough guy and needing to fight to bring value. That's not an easy thing to get up and br expected to do every other day.

If he had some major injury where he could just stay on LTIR for the rest of his contract then he'd for sure stick it out.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27, 2020 at 7:19 p.m.
Thread: If Flames Miss Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jdfitz77</b></div><div>Skipping out on the last 1mil, the last year... sure. That u could call likely
But your team above has him retiring this offseason,
leaving a ton of $$$ on the table
That is VERY UNLIKELY imo</div></div>

It's definitely wishful thinking for an off season armchair team. It isn't completely out in left field though as far as Lucic retiring.

The fact he already expressed he was contemplating retirement not even half way through his first season in Calgary, when he only got benched during a third period (not even healthy scratched), puts it in the realm of possibility.

As I mentioned if they miss the playoffs this season, Treliving and Lucic might have a sit down and see where each party is at moving forward. Unfortunately his contract significantly affects the team cap wise moving forward compared to what he brings, and he's fully aware of that.

If Tre tells him straight up there might be players taking his spot in the line up over the course of next season, he'll have something to seriously contemplate.

He isn't going to want to be that dude on the team that isn't worth giving 4th line minutes too, but is just hanging around the team going through the motions to collect his massive pay cheques. Judging by his personality, I highly doubt he wants to be looked at by his teammates as "that guy".
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27, 2020 at 2:07 p.m.
Thread: If Flames Miss Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jdfitz77</b></div><div>And yet he chose not to walk away from the $5mil paycheck
A guy walking away from $15mil is hard to imagine,
very hard</div></div>

It is definitely more likely he sticks it out for another season or 2 then retires. He'll probably be asked to waive his NMC for the expansion draft too.

He receives 3M of the 4M owed next season in July(signing bonus)

In 2021 he receives 2.5M of the 5M owed in July(Signing bonus)

Then the final year he receives 3M of the 4M owed in July(signing bonus)

If he were to retire following the 2020/2021 season after receiving his Signing Bonus for the 2021/2022 season, he would leave 2 years of his contract not played, while only leaving 6.5M on the table.

So if he retires with 2 seasons remaining on his contract after collecting his Signing Bonus in the off season. He'll only have played 5 years on a 7 year 42M contract, while still earning 35.5M.

An early retirement is a likely outcome, just whether it's with 2 or 1 years remaining is the question. Obviously a lot of things need to be factored in that haven't happened yet.

If the Flames somehow miraculously go on a playoff run and can win a few rounds with him being a contributor, then the team and his outlook might look a bit more positive moving forward.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27, 2020 at 12:22 p.m.
Thread: If Flames Miss Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jdfitz77</b></div><div>Or... Lucic can be scratched all season &amp; still collect the paycheck
There’s no way he’s retiring</div></div>

<a href="https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/nhl/news/flames-milan-lucic-considered-retiring-after-november-benching-it-just-wasnt-fun-for-me-anymore/18rr2nk22fqmg1d7a4eotdv3k0" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/nhl/news/flames-milan-lucic-considered-retiring-after-november-benching-it-just-wasnt-fun-for-me-anymore/18rr2nk22fqmg1d7a4eotdv3k0</a>

He's already made 50+ million before taxes.

If it goes down the road of him being scratched constantly and being miserable he's going to be contemplating if the extra money is really worth it.

If they don't make the playoffs this year, there might be some hard conversations Lucic needs to have with himself, his family, and Flames management about which route they're going down moving forward.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 26, 2020 at 9:58 p.m.