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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 5 at 11:58 a.m.

Thread: Calm Down

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>I dunno. When you have guys like Sid and Barkov, skill guys like Jake and Reinhart could fit right along.</div></div>

It's still a very lateral move. If they're going to move on from Guentzel it'll be for assets not a rental!

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 8:52 p.m.

Thread: Oilers

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>What do you think it would cost to dump an AHL goalie making $5,000,000?! LOL</div></div>

3 1st rd picks is ridiculous. That's the point! Stop it!

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 8:50 p.m.

Thread: Oilers Next Season

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>carter_mackenzie24</b></div><div>I didn't say Ceci hasn't been playing well, like he has, but the Oilers would be getting a HUGE upgrade with Carrier and yes Sissons is uncertain but like he is a pretty damn good player for the price</div></div>

Ceci is tied for 41st in goal differential at 5on5 among Dmen(+7) while playing 1RD & 2 more mins per game than Carrier... wanna know where Carrier is? Not close!

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 8:45 p.m.

Thread: Oilers

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>If need 24 25 & 26 1sts at least imo</div></div>

That's just stupid. Stop it

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 8:44 p.m.

Thread: Oilers Next Season

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>carter_mackenzie24</b></div><div>Ceci has not been the reason for this win streak and Bourgault is going to be no more than a third liner and for them to get Sissons will help for their quest for the cup</div></div>

1st off, yup Ceci has played very well for EDM during this 16 game winning streak!
Bourgault isn't expected to be a 3rd liner next year.
Sissons is sus 5on5... that's a playoff nightmare EDM already lived the last 2 seasons!

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 8:38 p.m.

Thread: Oilers Next Season

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>carter_mackenzie24</b></div><div>Carrier - Ceci, Bourgault (basically a 2nd), 4th and 6th
Sissons - 1st</div></div>

To a delusional Leafs fan.
Ceci- Has another year, 16 game winning streak as 1RD under his belt.
Bourgault- 22nd overall RFA with 1 yr left that you don't downplay as "basically a 2nd"
4th & 6th- Where TF is the retention at least? 6th maybe, 4th hell no!

Sissons is fine but they need better 5v5 in the playoffs. Sissons is sus

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 8:26 p.m.

Thread: Oilers Next Season

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>carter_mackenzie24</b></div><div>Not really and Sissons is also very good</div></div>

Good enough for:
Bourgault, Xavier
Ceci, Cody
2024 1st round pick (EDM)
2025 4th round pick (EDM)
2026 6th round pick (EDM)

Shut up

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 8:24 p.m.

Thread: Oilers

Selling the future for 1 all-in? NOTY
Gagner & Janmark don't make it thru waiver so goodbye taxi squad

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 8:22 p.m.

Thread: Oilers Next Season

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>carter_mackenzie24</b></div><div>Carrier is better than Ceci</div></div>

Paying him 4.5M just means he's gonna be your "new Ceci".
And no, he's not. Only to analytics guys pretending they actually watch hockey.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 8:14 p.m.

Thread: Oilers Next Season

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>carter_mackenzie24</b></div><div>What would you do</div></div>

Not pay a **** load to move Ceci just to pay Carrier more. We watching the same NHL games?

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 8:08 p.m.

Thread: Oilers Next Season

Thank the hockey gods you're not a GM

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 7:52 p.m.

Thread: Holland like TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ennis</b></div><div>https://www.onlinetherapy.com/free/</div></div>

https://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Joke

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 7:50 p.m.

Thread: Holland like TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ennis</b></div><div>You shouldn't be making acgm's if you get this worked up over someone telling you that your proposal is bad</div></div>

someONE <---- see what I did there? naw, you prob didn't

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 7:46 p.m.

Thread: Holland like TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ennis</b></div><div>Cool. Keep your 2nd. We don't want it</div></div>

"We"
:tearsofjoy :tearsofjoy :tearsofjoy

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 7:44 p.m.

Thread: Holland like TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ennis</b></div><div>Dude... are you okay? :tearsofjoy

Regressed or not, I just said he's worth more to Nashville then handing him to Edmonton for a late second - then waiting 3+ years for that drafted player to turn into something.

If it's got you THAT worked up maybe don't make ACGM's.</div></div>

News flash... NSH is regressing and 3+ years from now is closer to their window than today.
Go look at their DEAD CAP

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 7:41 p.m.

Thread: Holland like TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ennis</b></div><div>So we should just hand him over to Edmonton for a late second? Because we haven't signed him in January?

Novak isn't trying to screw us over like you think he is lol.</div></div>

He hasn't signed either, has he? Or do you need a source to figure that out?
No one said "hand him over". He's regressed. I'm not hearing his name much in trade talks and given his rental status & regression I'd never pay a 1st rd. If you just want NSH fans who stroke your ego you can find plenty of those AGM teams. You're acting like the definition of biased.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 7:35 p.m.

Thread: Holland like TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ennis</b></div><div>Source: I made it up

There's been no mention of moving Novak at all. It's likely Trotz waits out his options by the TDL. If we move Novak, our 2C becomes Sissons. He's more useful to us than a late second. There's no rush to sign him in January lol. I don't know why you're so worked up over a bad trade proposal</div></div>

Again, you don't understand.
The power is in Novak's hands right now. NSH rewarded his breakout season with 1yr/800k... No reason he shouldn't test FA.
I don't need a source to say he's not signed BECAUSE HE'S NOT SIGNED!

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 7:28 p.m.

Thread: Holland like TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ennis</b></div><div>Tell me how you really feel</div></div>

I don't think you understand how this works. If you haven't signed a UFA heading into a TDL there's a chance they can get moved. Maybe you sign him in the off-season, maybe you just move on completely but IF YOUR PRIORITY WAS TO RE-SIGN HIM THAN YOU WOULD HAVE DONE IT BY NOW. Pretty simple logic. I'm sure if 1 insider mentions his name he'll be in every AGM NSH trade for the next month.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 7:20 p.m.

Thread: Holland like TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ennis</b></div><div>If you re read what I said, I never said that's his value. But it's his value to us. If all we can get for him is a pick in the 60 range we're better off just keeping him. We're weak down the middle</div></div>
IF YOU READ WHAT I SAID... SIGN HIM!

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 7:13 p.m.

Thread: Holland like TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ennis</b></div><div>Novak is more valuable to Nash than a late second - we'd just re sign him</div></div>

You haven't...
He's a UFA leading up to a TDL. I'm just spitballing about players who are technically available. He hasn't been worth a 1st rd, c'mon.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 6:42 p.m.

Thread: Holland like TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>I'm just curious to ask.
All I heard from the past days and months were big names like Guentzel, Monahan, Lindholm, etc.
But Tomas Novak as a trade target not so much.</div></div>

That's exactly what I'm saying. He broke out last season, looked incredible. Slumping a bit at center this season but could be a solid depth target for a team looking for overperforming rentals with a low cap hit. I've had my eye on him for a couple years. The cap hit makes it very attractive. NSH hasn't re-signed so I assume there's some doubt he does. Completely speculating.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 28 at 6:22 p.m.

Thread: Holland like TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>Is Tomas Novak available at the Trade Deadline?
Is NSH willing to trade him?</div></div>

Your guess is as good as mine. I'm surprised I haven't heard his name more tbh

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 26 at 4:12 p.m.

Thread: Unrealistic TDL options

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Yegor was valued significantly more than either of those guys, Toffoli is on pace for another 35 goal season, and you’re asking for 50% retention.

If you can sell Foegele or Broberg for more than a 3rd or value them higher, that’s more than acceptable. I value them there, and that is why I offered you the simple alternative of 1st+3rd. Because it takes the bias out of it since there is no attachment to the player/prospect</div></div>

1. Your evaluation that $2,125,000 retention is worth a 3rd for a rental is too high.
2. I have no doubt that Toffoli fetches a 1st.
3. I think you're undervaluing Foegele & Broberg.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 26 at 4:06 p.m.

Thread: Unrealistic TDL options

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>1st+3rd, 1st+Foegele, 1st+Broberg for 50% toffoli, take your pick</div></div>

Implying that Foegele & Broberg are equal to a 3rd is nuts.
Foegele is currently breaking out & Broberg is about to.

Foegele+3rd or Broberg+3rd is more like it tbh! Just look to the trade that got NJD Toffoli(Sharangovich+3rd with a full year). Seeing as Toffoli is a rental he's gonna fetch less. I propose the same return WITH retention.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 26 at 2:48 a.m.

Thread: CARRY ME TO CARRIER 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SwarmChair</b></div><div>Analytically he shows very well this year. And he’s been playing top 4. But appreciate your opinion.

Who would you target for a Ceci upgrade that you think would be an upgrade.</div></div>

Moving Ceci is a tough decision. 15 game winning streak with him playing important mins.
I wouldn't want to disrupt the defense tbh. They're playing for each other and as someone who's extremely critical of defenses I think they should just add depth. Someone you can get relatively cheap who can step in a 3rd pairing role in a pinch. For that I'd just go later pick for a solid veteran. Prefer RD with Broberg being so close(I'd call him up for playoffs). Stecher? Miller?
If I'm spending the 2nd I'm thinking Walker or Tanev(with EDM likely adding). Won't know the real cost until the TDL

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