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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 1 at 11:35 a.m.
Thread: Trading up with Marky
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Burnout</b></div><div>People thought Montreal would take a center with their 2022 1st and a forward with their 2023 1st. No one knows exactly who Montreal will use that pick for.

They're obviously not going to even consider moving that pick for a rental winger with big question marks and an undersized prospect/young NHLer that hasn't done much yet and doesn't address a need for Montreal. Realistically, the only thing Calgary could offer for Montreal's 2024 1st is their own plus future(s) that would address a need for Montreal and the quality of which would be painful to give up.</div></div>

I was under the impression from Habs fans online that their biggest need was Wingers. But youre right they could do anything with that pick
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 28 at 4:19 p.m.
Thread: Flames Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>The Pagnotta run-down I think is the most clear.

<em>"Separate sources confirmed the Devils would send forward Alexander Holtz back in a trade with between $2 million and $3 million of Markstrom’s of annual cap hit retained"</em>

I am sure there are other lesser pieces involved, but if there was a 1st round pick....or a Dawson Mercer....or a Famous Seamus Casey...or even a Kevin Bahl...it would have likely said as such. But they were omitted since those pieces weren't included (or may be tied to non-agreed to portions of the deal).</div></div>

I’m not saying an unretained markstrom would’ve fetched any of those pieces in addition to holtz. But something like a 3rd and holtz is a big difference from a 1 for 1, even if an article would omit the 3rd. It’s possible something like that could’ve been the agreed upon portion of the trade, but with retention maybe Connie was asking to turn that 3rd into a piece like a 1st or bahl or Casey. Mercer was probably never on the table. I don’t deny Im biased and could be wrong. flames probably higher on holtz than I am.

Either way I’m rooting for devils to get back to form and make a push for playoffs, it only benefits Calgary for the devils to be buyers at DL even if it’s just for hanafin. Hopefully y’all can get a W Streak going
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 28 at 12:26 p.m.
Thread: Flames Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>

My take…..

I believe Fitzy wanted package deal, was willing to put Holtz on table to get both…figuring he can overpay on Markstrom and make it make up on Hanifin. Conroy said we will take the first half for Markstrom, but have to wait for market to mature on Hanifin. So now we wait…if no one beats NJD offer on Hanifin piece, both are sent to NJD. If a team beats NJD offer on Hanifin piece, that team gets Hanifin and Markstrom isn’t traded.


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I'd agree something like this is probably what happened. I wouldn't be surprised if a package like Holtz, 1st + mid picks and/or prospects for hanafin, retained markstrom is what ends up happening.

I appreciate the links, I'd still argue the first doesn't specify whether or not it was 1 for 1. and the second is referencing their own mock trade, not a source to what the reported deal was.
It mightve been markstorm = holtz straight up but no sources have actually stated the 1 for 1 as fact
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 28 at 11:02 a.m.
Thread: Flames Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Devils deal for Markstrom was Holtz for Markstrom with TBD retention. So if you add to Holtz…gotta retain Markstrom. And if it’s a 1st…probably means another piece is coming to NJ.</div></div>

Nothing I've seen stated the deal was specially a 1 for 1, please link a source for that if there is cause I havent found it. I think both flames and devils fans are making assumptions about what the deal was based off their own biased values of Markstron and Holtz. I'd think that Conroy wouldn't trade our best player for just one guy whos only getting 11:38 TOI on a struggling team. Devils fans disagree. We'll probably never know unless they do actually end up making the deal

"The Devils were reportedly ready to <strong>at least</strong> make Swedish sniper Alexander Holtz as part of the transaction." https://newjerseyhockeynow.com/2024/02/13/jacob-markstrom-waived-to-join-devils-tom-fitzgerald-flames/
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 20 at 5:18 p.m.