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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 4, 2019 at 2:27 p.m.

Thread: 20-21 feeling optimistic

Extremely naive to think Trouba hits UFA. WPG trades him and the he signs long term wherever he is traded. Wings either need to offer sheet or get aggressive and trade.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2019 at 10:58 a.m.

Thread: Securing Byram

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>Thank you for proving my point.</div></div>

English must not be your first language.

Where. Is. Your proof. That. WPG. Matches. The offer sheet.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2019 at 11:07 p.m.

Thread: Securing Byram

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>I get it. You have no idea what you are talking about. So instead of arguing the facts you are arguing from ignorance. Before responding read the page I sent you.

<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance</a></div></div>

lol okay...so you have none. Got it.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2019 at 10:58 p.m.

Thread: Securing Byram

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>Ok explain it to me then.</div></div>

Where's your proof they match it?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2019 at 10:56 p.m.

Thread: Securing Byram

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>See I know I'm right because I've read the CBA. If you say I'm wrong show me.</div></div>

LOLOLOL. You're not understanding. That's cool.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2019 at 10:52 p.m.

Thread: Securing Byram

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>I know but my original statement is correct. If Detroit offer sheets Trouba for 6yrs @ $6.5 and Trouba signs it. The all Winnipeg has to do is match it and he stays in Winnipeg. If you disagree and say false like last time then I want you to copy and paste the section of the CBA that backs up your false statement.</div></div>

lol you have proof they sign it?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2019 at 10:09 p.m.

Thread: Securing Byram

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stan_Bowman</b></div><div>If I’m the Blackhawks I want Byram or turcotte much more than anyone else at this point... my point is that you are going to have to do better to upgrade.</div></div>

You're probably not too familiar with who McIsaac is but I can assure you the Blackhawks scouting department is.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2019 at 10:06 p.m.

Thread: Securing Byram

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>Do you even read my post?

I said:

"If Detroit offer sheets Trouba and Trouba signs the offer sheet, then Winnipeg matches! Congratulations Detroit is the reason Trouba is stuck in Winnipeg for the next 6yrs."

You responded with:

False

Then I responded with:

Proof?</div></div>

LOL....education is key

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2019 at 10:41 a.m.

Thread: Offseason trades with TOR BUF ARI EDM

lol that TOR trade is a laugh riot

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2019 at 10:40 a.m.

Thread: Securing Byram

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>Proof?</div></div>

Proof that they match? You don't win Cups by signing guys who don't want to play for your team long term.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2019 at 10:39 a.m.

Thread: Securing Byram

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stan_Bowman</b></div><div>My guess is that that is not true

DET:Byram
COL:Turcotte
LAK:Zegras</div></div>

Ehh...Cozens and/or Dach will go before Zegras. You also still have Caufield and Pod in there as well. More than likely one of those two get to 6 overall.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2019 at 5:12 p.m.

Thread: Securing Byram

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>If Detroit offer sheets Trouba and Trouba signs the offer sheet, then Winnipeg matches! Congratulations Detroit is the reason Trouba is stuck in Winnipeg for the next 6yrs.</div></div>

False

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2019 at 1:10 p.m.

Thread: Securing Byram

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stan_Bowman</b></div><div>Don’t wanna be that guy, but that isn’t enough for us to miss out on Bryam, Turcotte, and zegras</div></div>

You're basically guaranteed to have one of Turcotte/Zegras. Wings give you the 6 overall pick....

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2019 at 1:02 p.m.

Thread: Securing Byram

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sedin33</b></div><div>Didn't Blashill coach at the World Championship? I thought he liked him. Maybe not so much. Zadina's a good player, but I think Hughes also fit a need for the Wings.</div></div>

He did. I'm sure Hughes was their pick until Zadina was still sitting there. Hughes fits way more of a need.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2019 at 12:55 p.m.

Thread: Securing Byram

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sedin33</b></div><div>As a Vancouver fan, I'm happy Holland didn't</div></div>

It baffles me how the Wings staff could scout both of them for all of 2017 (at the very least) and then pick Zadina over him. Especially knowing they'd have a change at Jack the very next year....

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2019 at 12:51 p.m.

Thread: Securing Byram

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sedin33</b></div><div>Should have drafted Hughes last year</div></div>

Agreed.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 16, 2019 at 6:48 p.m.

Thread: lets just get him now and be done with it

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMarch</b></div><div>This trade is a slight overpay, and WPG would jump all over it. He will most likely command an early 2nd and a B prospect.</div></div>

That's outrageous. Where is the overpay? His value may be slightly decreased due to his pending UFA status, but a B prospect and 2nd rounder for a 25 year old, RH top pairing Dman? Ummmmm, no.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 16, 2019 at 12:14 a.m.

Thread: lets just get him now and be done with it

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>You get much better long term by having cap, signing UFA Trouba and keep the 1st rounder and Lindstrom. Wings are likely to miss the playoffs next season anyway, so what's the point of getting Trouba a year early.</div></div>

I dont understand why people are assuming he hits UFA...not that this trade would be anything close to what it would take to get him, but I do think the Wings need to be aggressive and not just assume he hits UFA next year.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 15, 2019 at 8:47 p.m.

Thread: Armchair Wings 19-20

Those Trouba and Kapanen trades have to be typos....right?

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 11, 2019 at 4:26 p.m.

Thread: Next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dca919</b></div><div>Lucic full contract (4 years left @ $6M cap hit) plus he has a NMC that he's not going to waive and retaining DeKeyser cap hit of $1.5M for another 3 years would eat $7.5M for 3 seasons plus giving up a serviceable 3rd line center and the return is swapping draft picks from #35 to #8?

You do realize that DeKeyser and Lucic had about the same amount of points and goals last year right?</div></div>

You're right in the sense that he probably does not waive to go to the AHL but did you just insinuate that there's no difference between 35 and 8 lol. Did you also just refer to Glendening as a serviceable 3C lol.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 11, 2019 at 2:45 p.m.

Thread: Next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>I think with zadina and if velano is as good as we all want him to be plus adding maybe Turcotte or cozen this draft to go with larkin AA mantha and bertuzzi we have not elite talent but depth. Maybe enough to compete. I dont want to move pieces out. I agree we need to do something on the blue line but id rather buy myers this offseason and let the forwards develop and see what we have.</div></div>

Myers will be way too expensive and not nearly young enough (30 next year). Yzerman will not be doing that. I am hoping Yzerman realizes that D wins championships and builds the D like he did in Tampa - with aggressive trades and good contracts. This is that. I am fine with the giving up Zadina criticism haha.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 11, 2019 at 2:42 p.m.

Thread: Next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>But unless another team picks him up he's still in Detroits system and has to be protected.</div></div>

Idk if that's totally true, but he could still choose to waive it. He may be motivated to anyway knowing that he will sit in GR if he doesn't.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 11, 2019 at 2:32 p.m.

Thread: Next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>Lucic has a NMC which means he has to be protected. So who are you going to leave unprotected because you have to protect a cap dump?</div></div>

You waive him buddy. Simple.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 11, 2019 at 2:30 p.m.

Thread: Next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>listen I agree our forward group is better than our d group but thats not exactly saying a lot.</div></div>

That's true, obviously. I would rather not give up Zadina, but I would also love if Stevie somehow gets another 1st to draft Broberg. This draft could set us up for years to come. As long as the trade doesn't involve Mantha, AA or this year's 1st, I would be listening.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 11, 2019 at 2:22 p.m.

Thread: Next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>yeah, from the guy who wants to trade zadina</div></div>

Broberg has every chance to be just as good a Dman as Zadina does a winger. This team needs D. End of story. 12 Zadina's don't mean sh*t without Dmen.

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