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Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 7, 2022 at 12:10 a.m.
Thread: Erik Karlsson is ELITE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kster34</b></div><div>You brought up chykrun - I was just pointing out Karlson is at a different level, so not sure what your point was. Agree 100%, SJ should move him, but not for that garbage offer. He is an elite player and elite players - with term and a reasonable cap (assuming retention as proposed) - get more than a late 1st + mid level prospect + cap dumps back.
And your argument about saving cap space makes no sense - if they are rebuilding, there is no urgency to move him for cap space</div></div>

This is probably in the range of the better offers they can receive while not retaining as much, no team is picking up EK at 11.5M who finally looks to be back from a history of injuries, is a gamble in fact the biggest gamble, not the most impactful, that's Kane, Toews, Horvat, Meier maybe Karlsson. Chychrun is a gamble but still young, almost 3 times cheaper and plays defense
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 6, 2022 at 11:48 p.m.
Thread: Erik Karlsson is ELITE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>Let's call it 4.5 years at best.

If you look at it from a financial perspective:
Karlsson only has 2m in salaries left this year, his future salaries is 39m, if you ask me getting out of paying over 28m is great. SJ doesn't have much cap space, and the move frees up 8.35m. His contract is pretty much buyout proof since it doesn't save them much cap and would require the team to pay 2/3 of his contract too.

With Burns being traded already, and Karlsson and Meier being made available, SJ is probably headed into some sort of rebuild, whether it be a 2-3 year or 5 year remains to be seen, but how much is Karlsson going to be an asset to SJ if he's on their squad?

Yes, Karlsson is a Norris caliber dman, but do you think he's going to be a Norris caliber D-man for 4 more years? His NMC can become very problematic if he drops off especially at 11.5m, since he can't be sent to the minors either if he doesn't want to be there.

His NMC and large reduced cap hit are going to limit his destinations, so it will also limit the return.

Getting off that contract would not be a dumb move by Grier regardless of the return if the plan is to rebuild anyways. He probably can get more but he's not getting a team's 1st+top prospect. Anyone willing to pay that price will just pursue Chychrun. Both guys have a lengthy injury history, but Chychrun is 8 years younger, and carries a cap hit that is 45% less than the retained amount here. Plus, he doesn't have a NMC.</div></div>

If this particular trade happend I think they could resign Meier
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 6, 2022 at 11:29 p.m.
Thread: Erik Karlsson is ELITE
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kster34</b></div><div>Yes everyone should complain about the retention, come on now. If I were trading a Norris level dman (albeit on a crazy contract) and team wanted me to retain $3+M a year for 5 YEARS - you better be sending me value in return, and that ain’t value in return. SJ’s only motivation is to move out salary and kickstart a rebuild - what is coming back that’ll help them take meaningful steps to do that? Send me your 1st &amp; top prospect (along with some cap dumps on short term deals) or take off, eh. Even Grier is not dumb enough to take that deal.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kster34</b></div><div>Yes everyone should complain about the retention, come on now. If I were trading a Norris level dman (albeit on a crazy contract) and team wanted me to retain $3+M a year for 5 YEARS - you better be sending me value in return, and that ain’t value in return. SJ’s only motivation is to move out salary and kickstart a rebuild - what is coming back that’ll help them take meaningful steps to do that? Send me your 1st &amp; top prospect (along with some cap dumps on short term deals) or take off, eh. Even Grier is not dumb enough to take that deal.</div></div>

It's like 30% for 4 years, they might be able to flip Barrie or Puljujarvi elsewhere and you never know with Edmonton that those could be lottery picks, teams won't be knocking down the door for him, it's either Barrie or Zaitzev or someone else not worth mentioning
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