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Garak
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Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 9:36 p.m.
Thread:
Almost at the corner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>Is this the first time we've agreed on something, or am I think of someone else with a similar username that I don't get along with sometimes? Either way, I like it! Good job! Let's get that paperwork into the NHL ASAP to make things official.</div></div>
I don't know . . . I don't post all that much -- can't recall disagreeing strongly with you.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 9:32 p.m.
Thread:
Questions for Caniacs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>amullican</b></div><div>I wouldn't be mad at a trade like that. I wonder if there is a higher end player out there the Canes could get though. But I think the value is close in your hypothetical trade, depending on the pick situation.</div></div>
100% agreed. I was forcing a trade between these two teams on what might be, but certainly could be better deals out there FOR SURE.
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Armchair-GM
May 30 at 9:27 p.m.
Thread:
Questions for Caniacs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>The closest thing I've found is a Murphy 50% retained and Kurashev. Its solving a RD, creating cap space, and getting a Poor man's Necas. He did score 54 points on a bad team. Picks to "even things out" debatable on what exactly the pick situation should be.</div></div>
I wouldn't be mad at a trade like that. I wonder if there is a higher end player out there the Canes could get though. But I think the value is close in your hypothetical trade, depending on the pick situation.
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Armchair-GM
May 30 at 9:25 p.m.
Thread:
Questions for Caniacs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>Even so, if the acquiring team maybe made a handshake deal to not buyout his deal until the 2026 buyout period, if they decide to do so, and that still would knock two years off the buyout penalty for CAR, and again the cap hit would be far less than buying him out now. I think if they retained the exact amount of the buyout and the acquiring team bought him out in the summer of 2026, the term would be cut down by two years and the amount against the cap would only be like $270k for CAR, which is pretty negligible. BUT that would leave them with a retention slot tied up for a long time. So that is probably the bigger consideration than the cap hit itself, IMO. But both are valid concerns. I also think that with retention, his contract might be less likely to be bought out in the first place. The cap hit becomes a more manageable risk, whether that means burying him on the 4th line, as a 13 forward, or in the AHL. Because neither team wants to deal with the potential term on the buyout penalty.</div></div>
I see what you're saying now. Because of how his contract is structured it's basically the same hit. $835k today vs $850k in two years so really no difference truly. Just retain something around there or less and you'll cut the term.. Thats a good point!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 9:58 a.m.
Thread:
All In on Marner
Chicago doesn't need any more LD.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 9:05 p.m.
Thread:
NEW ERA
Chicago is the wrong team to ship Theodore to. They're not parting with 3 second round picks for an expiring contract. Not saying he's not worth it, just that Chicago isn't winning anything next year so it's a waste of assets.
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Armchair-GM
May 30 at 8:46 p.m.
Thread:
Questions for Caniacs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>Yeah. There are a lot of reasons that paying to move KK makes no sense, specifically the U26 buyout cost. I honestly don't think CHI and CAR are good partners, either. I'm not really asking as a CHI fan and not necessarily with CHI as the acquiring team, but mainly just looking for generalized answers out of curiosity as a fan of the NHL.
No offense meant, because I don't know how to say this without sounding mean, but I personally think your expectation for a return on Necas is bonkers. CAR would have to add a mountain of value on top of Necas to even come close to getting Bedard or our 2nd overall pick. haha. But, I know, I asked and you answered. So, I appreciate you taking the time.
Regardless, if you had to put a single pick value on Necas, doesn't have to be one that CHI owns, what would it be? 15th overall? 10th overall? 5th overall?
Also, generally, what do you want and/or what do you think you could get for KK, with and without retention? Again, not specifically with CHI in mind, but in general.</div></div>
I know that the Hawks have a surplus of LHD, which isn’t something the Canes need, and with the Hawks pieces of interest basically being limited to Bedard, Murphy, and 2OA, I personally don’t see a trade to be made. I will say, a line of X-Bedard-Necas would be absolutely electric, and I think that would basically be the only reason Chicago would consider making a move for Necas.
As for pick value, taking into account the difference in draft quality, the only comparable picks in this years draft are likely in the top 7-8 picks in terms of potential.
As for KK, I think the Canes give him until the U26 buyout window closes to control his destiny. If he is able to carve out his role as the 2/3C, the Canes keep him. I’m of the opinion that the KK we saw at the end of last season and the beginning of this season was the true KK, and if that is the case, his contract is a very good contract. As for would he would get via trade right now, I have no clue.
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Armchair-GM
May 30 at 8:04 p.m.
Thread:
Let Petey Cook
It's been established and approved that Mikheyev takes a 2nd to dump. Embrace the reality.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 8:00 p.m.
Thread:
Let Petey Cook
Chicago easily declines.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 8:30 p.m.
Thread:
Questions for Caniacs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>Retention makes sense for KK only because they would be cutting term on the buyout penalty in half. But yeah, if the other team ends up buying out his deal, CAR would get stuck with a buyout penalty anyway, but the amount against the cap would be far less. I think they definitely want to make that decision BEFORE he turns 26, though.</div></div>
100% and I think we're saying the same thing, but IF a team like CHI or ANA or whomever got him now...it would be the same exact approach that CAR would be implementing. They'd be looking to see how its working out and if not...buy him out before 26 too! So CAR shouldn't retain because they no longer control their "cap destiny" and they're giving the potential upside to someone else.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 8:28 p.m.
Thread:
Questions for Caniacs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>evelutions2</b></div><div>With the buyout penalty being as cheap as it is, if no team is willing to pay for KK, which it sounds like there is a couple of teams willing, the Canes will just buy him out. No point in spending assets to move KK when the buyout is only about 800k.
As for Necas, Chicago doesn’t have much to offer that the Canes would be interested in. Canes aren’t interested in a futures type of deal for Necas, and there are only 2 roster players the Canes would likely want, 1 of which Chicago would consider untouchable. I get Chicago doesn’t want to move Murphy, but since Bedard isn’t getting moved, he is likely the only other roster player the Canes would want.
I don’t see Chicago being open to moving 2OA, but maybe a deal can be reached for 2OA and a prospect for Necas and 27OA, but that is almost certainly not going to happen with how great a difference between 2 and 27 there is.
Personally, I don’t think Chicago and Carolina are good trading partners for Necas. Just too much conflicting interests for a trade to be made.</div></div>
I get there’s a lot to this comment - but did you really just suggest that Necas should be traded for the 2nd overall pick + more?! … not even close. Like not even the same planet.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 8:00 p.m.
Thread:
2025
Chicago declines. Going from a 4th to a 2nd isnt worth taking on Atkinson.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 8:20 p.m.
Thread:
Questions for Caniacs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>Yeah. There are a lot of reasons that paying to move KK makes no sense, specifically the U26 buyout cost. I honestly don't think CHI and CAR are good partners, either. I'm not really asking as a CHI fan and not necessarily with CHI as the acquiring team, but mainly just looking for generalized answers out of curiosity as a fan of the NHL.
No offense meant, because I don't know how to say this without sounding mean, but I personally think your expectation for a return on Necas is bonkers. CAR would have to add a mountain of value on top of Necas to even come close to getting Bedard or our 2nd overall pick. haha. But, I know, I asked and you answered. So, I appreciate you taking the time.
Regardless, if you had to put a single pick value on Necas, doesn't have to be one that CHI owns, what would it be? 15th overall? 10th overall? 5th overall?
Also, generally, what do you want and/or what do you think you could get for KK, with and without retention? Again, not specifically with CHI in mind, but in general.</div></div>
Retention wouldn't make sense for KK because that's just as bad as the buyout...then the other team could buy him out. As an outsider looking in on their situation. They ride with him a year or two more until the buyout jumps up. That's the make or break decision to be made.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 8:12 p.m.
Thread:
Shake
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sabres89</b></div><div>Love it, you made every effort to fill the 3c spot, add grit to a painfully soft roster, and add a physical defense first right shot d. The bottom 6 needs a little more skill, I would suggest skipping the Joshua signing, and have Rosen or savoie fill the open winger spot on line 3. They are on elcs, plus I have a suspicion that somebody is gonna throw Joshua 4 per.
Edit- just realized Rosen got moved, so savoie or kulich. I realize kulich is closer to nhl ready, but savoie is going to be a better overall player, and I think he balances out that line better.</div></div>
He traded kulich and a 1st and more for cernak and jeannot a terrible trade
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 8:11 p.m.
Thread:
Shake
Skinner isn't waiving for Chicago. Even if he did, swapping those picks isn't enough to move that much salary and cap hit. Maybe Skinner and the Buffalo 1st for the Isles 2nd, but that's likely as good as it gets.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 8:18 p.m.
Thread:
Questions for Caniacs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>evelutions2</b></div><div>With the buyout penalty being as cheap as it is, if no team is willing to pay for KK, which it sounds like there is a couple of teams willing, the Canes will just buy him out. No point in spending assets to move KK when the buyout is only about 800k.
As for Necas, Chicago doesn’t have much to offer that the Canes would be interested in. Canes aren’t interested in a futures type of deal for Necas, and there are only 2 roster players the Canes would likely want, 1 of which Chicago would consider untouchable. I get Chicago doesn’t want to move Murphy, but since Bedard isn’t getting moved, he is likely the only other roster player the Canes would want.
I don’t see Chicago being open to moving 2OA, but maybe a deal can be reached for 2OA and a prospect for Necas and 27OA, but that is almost certainly not going to happen with how great a difference between 2 and 27 there is.
Personally, I don’t think Chicago and Carolina are good trading partners for Necas. Just too much conflicting interests for a trade to be made.</div></div>
The closest thing I've found is a Murphy 50% retained and Kurashev. Its solving a RD, creating cap space, and getting a Poor man's Necas. He did score 54 points on a bad team. Picks to "even things out" debatable on what exactly the pick situation should be.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 7:54 p.m.
Thread:
Trades
Wahlstrom for a 4th seems to be the new hotness today. Chicago declines as usual.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 7:48 p.m.
Thread:
Questions for Caniacs
With the buyout penalty being as cheap as it is, if no team is willing to pay for KK, which it sounds like there is a couple of teams willing, the Canes will just buy him out. No point in spending assets to move KK when the buyout is only about 800k.
As for Necas, Chicago doesn’t have much to offer that the Canes would be interested in. Canes aren’t interested in a futures type of deal for Necas, and there are only 2 roster players the Canes would likely want, 1 of which Chicago would consider untouchable. I get Chicago doesn’t want to move Murphy, but since Bedard isn’t getting moved, he is likely the only other roster player the Canes would want.
I don’t see Chicago being open to moving 2OA, but maybe a deal can be reached for 2OA and a prospect for Necas and 27OA, but that is almost certainly not going to happen with how great a difference between 2 and 27 there is.
Personally, I don’t think Chicago and Carolina are good trading partners for Necas. Just too much conflicting interests for a trade to be made.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 7:36 p.m.
Thread:
Questions for Caniacs
I don't think the Canes view KK as a cap dump and I don't think they're quite ready to give up on him. Because of that and the fact that his buyout is relatively cheap, I don't think they're going to pay a team to get rid of him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 5:34 p.m.
Thread:
Oilers Opening Roster 2425
Day one post, welcome to capfriendly!
These trades are favouring the Oilers a lot haha
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 6:40 p.m.
Thread:
Youth
Hawks decline. Walman plays a position the Hawks are stacked at already and Fabbri is a cap dump from the Hawks perspective.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 5:33 p.m.
Thread:
Oilers Opening Roster 2425
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>Why on earth would CHI give up Reichel AND a pick for Ceci and Kemp?</div></div>
I stopped reading after the Ducks trade. Not worth your time to try and justify this
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 3:53 p.m.
Thread:
go flames go
Hawks aren't giving up picks for one year of Mangiapane.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 2:52 p.m.
Thread:
go flames go
Chicago declines. They aren't paying for Mangiapane.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 30 at 4:55 p.m.
Thread:
NHL 24 Franchise Sell
This is so far past gruesome they need to invent a new word. None of this is close to feasible. Good heavens. Think of the children.
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