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Forum: Armchair-GM11 hours ago
Thread: Start Fresh
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Michaeli13</b></div><div>Hall and Foligno aren't going to teach him the defensive responsibilities that Tavares can especially with them not being centers (Foligno is not always a center). I disagree, I think it's well worth Chicago's while to give up a 2nd round pick and a later-on pick that usually never hits anyway for a guy like JT. The Hawks have 7 picks in the first 3 rounds of this draft and about that many for next season too. They can easily afford to give one up to benefit Bedard's growth since he's going to be the foundation of this team. Also, Tavares does better on their team, and giving up a 2nd does not turn them into buyers. Teams that are rebuilding can acquire players too... that's allowed lol.

Bedard is a franchise player on a team full of essentially nobodies. I'm not doubting the ability of the development coach or Hall/Foligno but you have to agree that Tavares is much more capable of mentoring and developing him than those 2 guys.

Monahan is honestly a decent name for you to throw out but I'd say that he has relatively similar mentorship skills as Hall/Foligno. Tavares took Matthews under his wing when he was a rookie and helped him alongside Thornton. Also while Chicago may try to go for Monahan I don't know if he would bite at a Chicago contract but I guess we will have to wait and see.

PS: if you think Monahan doesn't want near the 8-9 million dollar mark then you'd be wrong. I stick by my vision of Tavares being the mentor for this franchise player as he was for Matthews. If you don't see that Tavares is an amazing fit for Chicago then you're the one that is being blinded by your assumptions.</div></div>

Hawks aren't going to pay anything for JT. Best it gets for the Leafs: if Tavares will waive, Leafs pay him his $7m signing bonus on 7/1. Then on 7/2 trade him to the Hawks for future considerations. Hawks would probably take on the cap hit if the Leafs are actually paying most of JT's salary. If that deal doesn't work for you and Brad, the discussion is over.
Forum: Armchair-GM12 hours ago
Thread: Marnedelphia Home of Gods
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>When did the guy go back to where he was just traded from?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyCaballero</b></div><div>CBA: For one season following a compliance buyout, players are not permitted to rejoin the team which performed the buyout (this restriction does not exist for normal buyouts).
this means Tavares could not sign a contract with Chicago</div></div>

The CBA was amended after the Brooks Orpik trade to CO. CO bought Orpik out and he re-signed with the Caps at a lower salary. That loophole got closed with the last CBA addendum three seasons ago. A player who gets traded in the off season and then gets bought out can't resign with the team that traded him for one season. JT can't be bought out this off season and re-sign w/ the Leafs until 7/1/25.
Forum: Armchair-GM12 hours ago
Thread: Start Fresh
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Michaeli13</b></div><div>Name one mentor that you're gonna sign that is as valuable as Tavares... I'll wait. The price may be slightly too high, I'll admit that. He draws in at least a 2nd round and a 4th-6th and if you say no to that you're insane and need to re-evaluate your hockey knowledge

The money is not a factor in this situation... you have so much cap space and its a 1 year deal. Someone needs to teach him the ropes and tbh i don't see anyone better (that is acquirable) to do so than Tavares</div></div>

Well right back at 'ya regarding your hockey knowledge. I'm not debating JT's abilities or what his value might or might not be. If someone wants to give the Leafs a 2nd +, the Leafs should take that offer.

What I'm saying is it won't be the Hawks. They are looking to improve their roster. But they aren't going to be buyers. They aren't spending valuable draft assets for a one year rental that gives another team $11m in cap space. The Hawks have Taylor Hall and Nick Foligno, who did a great job mentoring Bedard this past season. And they have Yanic Perrault, a highly regarded developmental coach who Bedard has been very complimentary of. Your assumption that the Hawks even want a veteran C to mentor Bedard is based on nothing but your personal feeling that Taveras is this "must have" player for the Hawks.

How about a guy like Sean Monahan to mentor Bedard? All he costs is $.

Bottom line is, if the price on Tavares is a 2nd +, the Hawks won't be in on him.