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Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 5, 2023 at 2:31 p.m.
Thread: call gary
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>He was traded at rental value, that's exactly how it works. Vancouver literally couldn't market him as anything more because conditional re-sign picks are illegal. Just because the team wanted to trade for him and then hopefully extend him does not change the fact that Vancouver sold him as a rental.

Um 41 points in 63 games is a 0.65ppg pace. Sillinger put up 31 points in 79 games for a 0.39ppg pace. Those aren't remotely similar. There's also a thing called late bloomers, Tage Thompson for example had a career high of 14 points before he exploded in 21/22. Do you think Sillinger has more value and a higher ceiling than him too?

You are extremely pessimistic about your team. I for one think they will finish at worst 5th in the division next year, and fighting with Pittsburgh for 4th. Severson and Fantilli are massive additions to the team and you undervalue Provorov a lot. He is a solid defenseman when not paired with a 3rd pair guy. Adding Lindholm would be like when St. Louis added Ryan O'Reilly. Again just look at New Jersey, they didn't make a lot of changes but still became a contender over night.

If the best arguments you can come up with is shooting your own team down and attempting to insult me then move along. From our few interactions I'm quite confident I know more about your own team than you do.</div></div>

OK I'm done talking to the troll. It's very obvious you're a homer who overvalues his guy. It's ok, we all do it, but it doesn't make you right.

Horvats value was not reflective of being a rental.

Sillinger &gt;&gt; Vilardi

And I'm not pessimistic, I'm realistic. The upgrades CBJ have made aren't close to what Jersey did and it's not enough to get them top 4 in a very tough division. Especially if/when Pittsburgh adds Karlsson. They need development from Fantilli/Jiricek to really push, which I think will take a year still.

From our interactions, it's very obvious you don't know anything about hockey in general, let alone do you know enough to try to lecture me on my own team lol lucky for you, you're on the right website to change that! Try trolling/spamming less and reading some more, you might learn something!

Have a good summer Elias, go sign that extension.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2023 at 11:50 p.m.
Thread: call gary
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Vancouver sold him as a rental, just like Hampus Lindholm and Tyler Bertuzzi were sold as rentals. That has nothing to do with whether they were extended or not. The selling team sells them as a rental and the buying team hopes to extend them. Them signing a contract after does not change the fact that they were traded with a few months remaining on their contracts.

You are once again completely ignoring Vilardi's injuries. In a 3 year span after being drafted he played a total of 78 games. That's a lot of development time missed due to back issues. A 10 game sample size doesn't need to impress you but at the time he did look very promising. I'm willing to bet that way more teams would be interested in him than Sillinger right now.

You don't know Babcock if that's what you think. You had Torts as a coach, was he the kind of guy who was there to help people grow or was he the kind of guy who demanded results? they are cut from the exact same thread.

Them not wanting or needing Lindholm is entirely your opinion. He can absolutely be the difference in them making the playoffs or not. The Devils for example were 5th last in the NHL a year ago, made 4 offseason additions (Palat, Marino, Vanecek, Haula) and were suddenly the 2nd best team in the Metro. Columbus could very easily be the 4th best team in the Metro next year.

It's cute that you think you can just sign him as a FA next year. You sound so much like Habs fans</div></div>

There's no way that's how it works. You're nuts if you think the idea of extending a guy they want to extend doesn't make him more valuable to that team.

I could care less about Vilardi's injuries. The fact remains that he's 4 years older than Sillinger and just now putting up the same results Sillinger did at 18. Unless Sillinger bombs again this year, his value/ceiling is much higher.

The Jacket's front office cared about consistency/structure because the team had none last year. That's what they're looking for from Babcock. There's not a coach in NHL history that is going to squeeze immediate results out of this roster.

And like I highlighted earlier, the only real additions they made to this teams are Severson and Fantilli. That is not close to what the Devils added and that's not going to get them from 2nd to last place to top 4 in a very tough division. Next summer is maybe when they're hoping to really start making moves to push. It would take McDavid/Matthews to get this team to the playoffs, certainly not Lindholm.

And it's cute you post on here so much and have no idea what you're saying and you just troll anyone who mentions Calgary. It's almost exactly what a bored NHL player might do on his burner account. But don't worry Elias, I'll keep your secret.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2023 at 7:47 p.m.
Thread: call gary
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Having confidence in signing someone and negotiating an extension beforehand are 2 entirely different things. Sometimes negotiations can go fast and sometimes they can drag out. Regardless the fact remains that Vancouver did not allow anyone to negotiate with him or his agent beforehand so no one could guarantee that he would be willing to sign an extension. Either way that does not change that Columbus (or whoever else) probably would be able to negotiate with Lindholm before making a trade.

Vilardi had his early career interrupted by multiple injuries. He still put up 7 points in 10 games back in 19/20. If we are talking about pure potential then sure Sillinger has the edge but he's quickly loosing that ceiling and is currently being projected as a bottom 6 player. As of right now though Vilardi is a far better hockey player. Maybe you aren't high on Raty but last I checked Sillinger didn't exactly do better than him in the same league last year.

Do even know what coach your team hired? Babcock is a win now coach. That means your management wants to make the playoffs next year. As for Severson, he turns 29 in 3 days. Do you seriously think the team wants to start their window of competition when he is 32, when Gaudreau is 33? No of course not, they are probably hoping to be a top 4 team in their division or at the very least play 82 meaningful games this year.</div></div>

The fact remains with Horvat, you're trying to argue his value is lower than what Lindholms would be because he was only a rental. But that's not what happened. They paid that price because they thought and succeeded in resigning him. If they thought was a rental, they wouldn't have paid that much.

A 10 game sample size does not impress me. It still took Vilardi 4 years match what Sillinger did in one. And yes, he had a sophomore slump and still has plenty to prove himself, but he's still regarded as a good young player in a prospect pool that is top 5 in the league. His value is much higher than Vilardi and he's not worth giving up for an aging guy.

And yes, I know who they hired. Still does not change the fact that this is not a playoff team this year. They still need to to grow and develop their young guys, which is what they think Babcock can do. They're not desperate, they're not forcing anything, and they're not selling futures yet.

They don't need/want to trade for Lindholm because he doesn't move the needle to get them in the playoffs this year. There's too many teams in the Metro still far ahead of them. If they want Lindholm, they'll just sign him for free in FA like we did Gaudreau.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2023 at 6:13 p.m.
Thread: call gary
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>If you are referring to this response I literally never saw it until now. But I'll respond accordingly. I don't always see every response on here since notifications sometimes don't show up. I was also not saying that many posts is impressive, I was saying that the likelihood of us talking multiple times is very low unless you only respond to me. From what I can tell we've only talked 1 other time unless you are on a new account.


1. Bo was traded as purely a rental. It is widely known that Vancouver refused to let teams talk to him at all. The Islanders traded for him without ever talking to him or his agent and then signed him to an extension 5 days later. I doubt Calgary would have any issue letting Boston, Toronto, Carolina, Columbus, Washington, etc talk to him to gauge his interest in an extension plus what he would be looking for in one.
2. Raty is not an iffy prospect, he was ranked in the top 50 back in January by <a href="https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-top-100-prospects-ranking/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">The Hockey Writers</a> and was an honorable mention in Scott Wheeler's top 50 prospects list on the Athletic.

Dubois didn't set the market, the market was set a while ago. It's a buyers market so selling in general right now is not good. Also with Dubois you are completely discounting team needs. Vilardi just had a wicked season, I would hardly consider him a prospect anymore. As of right now Vilardi has quite a lot more value than Sillinger. Kupari is a solid NHL depth player and still young, again not a prospect. And Iafalo is a good defensive 3rd line winger. All 3 players are regular's in the NHL right now. I'm fairly confident that if the cap space worked LA would have been more than fine sending them Turcotte + their 2024 1st + Chromiak/Pinelli instead.

You may not view it this way but I think Columbus is pretty desperate to start competing right now.</div></div>

Definitely wrong on Horvat, no way he's traded "purely" as a rental then gets extension 5 days later.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>If you are referring to this response I literally never saw it until now. But I'll respond accordingly. I don't always see every response on here since notifications sometimes don't show up. I was also not saying that many posts is impressive, I was saying that the likelihood of us talking multiple times is very low unless you only respond to me. From what I can tell we've only talked 1 other time unless you are on a new account.


1. Bo was traded as purely a rental. It is widely known that Vancouver refused to let teams talk to him at all. The Islanders traded for him without ever talking to him or his agent and then signed him to an extension 5 days later. I doubt Calgary would have any issue letting Boston, Toronto, Carolina, Columbus, Washington, etc talk to him to gauge his interest in an extension plus what he would be looking for in one.
2. Raty is not an iffy prospect, he was ranked in the top 50 back in January by <a href="https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-top-100-prospects-ranking/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">The Hockey Writers</a> and was an honorable mention in Scott Wheeler's top 50 prospects list on the Athletic.

Dubois didn't set the market, the market was set a while ago. It's a buyers market so selling in general right now is not good. Also with Dubois you are completely discounting team needs. Vilardi just had a wicked season, I would hardly consider him a prospect anymore. As of right now Vilardi has quite a lot more value than Sillinger. Kupari is a solid NHL depth player and still young, again not a prospect. And Iafalo is a good defensive 3rd line winger. All 3 players are regular's in the NHL right now. I'm fairly confident that if the cap space worked LA would have been more than fine sending them Turcotte + their 2024 1st + Chromiak/Pinelli instead.

You may not view it this way but I think Columbus is pretty desperate to start competing right now.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>If you are referring to this response I literally never saw it until now. But I'll respond accordingly. I don't always see every response on here since notifications sometimes don't show up. I was also not saying that many posts is impressive, I was saying that the likelihood of us talking multiple times is very low unless you only respond to me. From what I can tell we've only talked 1 other time unless you are on a new account.


1. Bo was traded as purely a rental. It is widely known that Vancouver refused to let teams talk to him at all. The Islanders traded for him without ever talking to him or his agent and then signed him to an extension 5 days later. I doubt Calgary would have any issue letting Boston, Toronto, Carolina, Columbus, Washington, etc talk to him to gauge his interest in an extension plus what he would be looking for in one.
2. Raty is not an iffy prospect, he was ranked in the top 50 back in January by <a href="https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-top-100-prospects-ranking/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">The Hockey Writers</a> and was an honorable mention in Scott Wheeler's top 50 prospects list on the Athletic.

Dubois didn't set the market, the market was set a while ago. It's a buyers market so selling in general right now is not good. Also with Dubois you are completely discounting team needs. Vilardi just had a wicked season, I would hardly consider him a prospect anymore. As of right now Vilardi has quite a lot more value than Sillinger. Kupari is a solid NHL depth player and still young, again not a prospect. And Iafalo is a good defensive 3rd line winger. All 3 players are regular's in the NHL right now. I'm fairly confident that if the cap space worked LA would have been more than fine sending them Turcotte + their 2024 1st + Chromiak/Pinelli instead.

You may not view it this way but I think Columbus is pretty desperate to start competing right now.</div></div>

Definitely wrong on Horvat, no way he was traded "purely" as a rental then signs an extension 5 days later. Even I'd he didn't negotiate before the trade, no way were they not confident they could get an extension done.

Raty can barely play in the AHL right now, good for him for being on the top 50 but he has some growing to do before I'd call him anything but iffy. Also, it took Vilardi 4 years in the NHL before he could beat what Sillinger did as an 18 year old rookie. Sillinger clears Vilardi big time.

Also, absolute clown take on the Blue Jackets. All they've done to "upgrade" this off-season is sign Severson. Trading for Provorov was just to replace Gavrikov (which is still a major downgrade). They're not desperate at all, and certainly not desperate enough to sell half the farm for a guy who is going to be an over-paid middle 6 guy in 2-3 years.

Do us all a favor Elias, go sign an extension so we can all drop this because we're all tired of you guys spamming everyone's posts with nonsense. Sign your extension and go hit the ice my friend.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2023 at 5:08 p.m.
Thread: call gary
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Lol. PLD is not remotely as good a player as Lindholm and if you didn't notice he got a better return than what the OP is offering. If you can't see that then you clearly overvalue picks/prospects, and undervalue players. I think your view on the Seth Jones trade is completely clouded too by the 2022 1st. If Dallas had been the team that got him and it had been Dellandrea/Harley + #15 and #47 in 2021 + their 2022 1st the trade would probably look quite fair because that 2022 1st would have been in the 20-30 range instead of 6th OA.

Also when have we "been over this," you have less than 25 total posts on this site and a quarter of them have been in this thread alone. Do you like only respond to me?</div></div>

I would expect an NHL player to know his stuff better lol
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2023 at 5:03 p.m.
Thread: call gary
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Lol. PLD is not remotely as good a player as Lindholm and if you didn't notice he got a better return than what the OP is offering. If you can't see that then you clearly overvalue picks/prospects, and undervalue players. I think your view on the Seth Jones trade is completely clouded too by the 2022 1st. If Dallas had been the team that got him and it had been Dellandrea/Harley + #15 and #47 in 2021 + their 2022 1st the trade would probably look quite fair because that 2022 1st would have been in the 20-30 range instead of 6th OA.

Also when have we "been over this," you have less than 25 total posts on this site and a quarter of them have been in this thread alone. Do you like only respond to me?</div></div>

Do you think having that many posts is impressive? Lol it just means you have no life and need to take a break from this site every once in a while. And yes, you've tried arguing with me about Lindholm several times and you stop replying every time I expose that you don't know anything.

PLD got the Jets a 2nd, a good prospect, a low-end prospect, and a roster player. OP is offering a 1st, and good young player, a roster player, and a 3rd round pick. That's a better return than what PLD got. Plus, Lindholm is barely a better player now, and will be declining sooner due to age.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2023 at 3:49 p.m.
Thread: call gary
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>Much less will Elias get this value as a rental. No matter how much we want to argue that a player gets full value with the extension worked in, it just simply isn't the same. Sign and trades almost always get closer value to rentals than term players because the extension wouldn't exist without the trade.</div></div>

Oh yeah, the contract thing has major effects.

I've been saying it, if Calgary wants the "best" return, they would need to trade Lindholm to a more desperate team (Boston, PIt maybe, etc.) Because A) they're desperate to stay relevant for the next couple years and B) they could sign him to the extension he wants and probably not care so much about the long-term.

Problem with that is, those teams don't have the best trade pieces. Yeah you might get another 1st/2nd instead of the 3rd, but they're going to be late round picks anyway, so it it really that much more valuable of a piece? And they're prospect pools aren't as deep either.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2023 at 3:38 p.m.
Thread: call gary
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>1. Lindholm doesn't give 2 ****s what he's traded for

2. That return is dog**** for Calgary. Does nothing for them. Not only is the 1st 2 years from now, it is top 10 protected so it may not come until 2026. Boqvist is fine but his value is not that high, maybe worth a late 1st. Roslovic is useless to the Flames. If they are moving Lindholm they are looking to do a 2-3 year rebuild.

Lindholm's trade value would and should be similar to what Chicago paid for Jones. We are talking about a 1st line center here that is at least on par with Ryan O'Reilly when he was moved to the Blues. That price will go down a bit as the year goes on but right now, if you want Lindholm for a full season, and maybe with retention it will cost a lot.</div></div>

Elias, buddy, you need to go touch some grass and calm down.

You and I have been over this. Lindholms value is similar to PLD's, which if you take out Vladar like I said, is right in the ballpark of what OP suggested. Lindholm is not getting Seth Jones' return, just isn't going to happen.

If you are so worried about the trade return Elias, get off CapFriendly, go talk to Conroy, and sign your extension so we can stop talking about this.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 18, 2023 at 4:11 p.m.
Thread: Buying into competition
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Lol try again. Lindholm would be extremely coveted league wide if made available. He has no trade protection and is on an extremely team friendly deal. His next contract is irrelevant in talks concerning his trade value, even as purely a rental he has loads of value. Bo Horvat was traded as purely a rental and he got a better return than what you are suggesting. Bo Horvat is not nearly as good as Lindholm</div></div>

I mean, nobody is going to give you a FRP plus 2 good prospects for a one year rental of Lindholm, they would absolutely be thinking about his extension.

Bo Horvat got traded for a FRP, an iffy prospect and a roster player (which was also about making the $$ work, not just adding value for VAN). He also signed an extension with the NYI like a week later, so he absolutely wasn't a rental.

The Pierre-Luc Dubois trade also set the market for Lindholm. PLD is a younger, arguably better player than Lindholm and he got the Jets a 2nd, a good prospect, a low-end prospect, and a roster player. A FRP, a good prospect, and probably a roster guy or a 3rd is a more than fair return for Lindholm.

Calgary's best chance to get more is to send him to someone desperate to continue to compete in the short term (think Boston, Pittsburgh) because maybe they would actually use him as a rental and like I said, they're desperate, or maybe they wouldn't care about the long term of his contract as much. Maybe you'd get more out of them, but they don't have as much capital to trade away in the first place.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 18, 2023 at 3:33 p.m.
Thread: Buying into competition
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>I hope they do too, that doesn't make the above offer a good deal for the Flames. I get the value is probably not far off in that offer but the pieces are simply wrong
Roslovic has value but is of minimal interest to the Flames
Fix Wolansky is 1 year from UFA unless he plays 65 NHL games next year (which is unlikely), so not worth much
1st will absolutely have protection on it
Chinakhov is a solid prospect</div></div>

A top-10 protected 1st and a solid prospect is probably the best return you're are looking at.

Lindholm is an OK 1C on the wrong end of the age curve who is probably going to demand an 8x$8.5 contract at least. Not going to be a whole lot of suitors willing to give much to trade for him AND have to pay him that contract.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 30, 2023 at 4:20 p.m.
Thread: Keep on rollin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>benjgc</b></div><div>I think you keep Boqvist as the eventual 3RD with PP2 QB responsibilities (parking Gud either on 3LD or in the press box where he belongs) when Jiricek is ready to come up. Until then, though, I'd rather have him around than Peeke. But the Pageau trade bothers me less than the Grzelcyk deal... I'd honestly rather just get picks or prospects for Roslovic, or have him replace Bemstrom in the Pageau trade.</div></div>

Maybe that's what they do. I just think the trade market is really dead right now and you're probably not going to get what guys should be worth when you're just asking for picks. You might have more success with swaps like these so the money moving around is more even. Even at 50% retained, there's not a lot of teams that are going to want to take on that 2M for Rosy, at least not in the offseason. It's nuts but it just seems that's where we're at now until the cap starts going up again.

But knowing my luck, CBJ is just going to sign JT compher or someone tomorrow and make all this pointless lol
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 30, 2023 at 4:07 p.m.
Thread: Keep on rollin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>benjgc</b></div><div>The "major" adjective should've been "significant", but I was honestly more concerned with surrendering Boqvist. I think he's got a lot of untapped upside, and Pageau might be obtainable through some other combination of pieces.</div></div>

I totally agree, trading Boqvist would have to get you a good return because he is a good player. On the flip side of that though, he is the type of defenseman that needs minutes to really be all he can be. If the future of the top 4 is Werenski-Jiricek Provorov-Severson, there might not be enough minutes to go around. That's the only reason I can see him being the odd man out. Peeke may not be a better overall player than him, but who is going to thrive more in that bottom pair role? Who knows, it will be interesting to watch this unfold over the next year or two.

These are good problems to have though. Maybe you don't need Grzelcyk and Bean holds the spot down. I just think both the team and prospect defenseman are a little right-handed heavy, so sending out a RHD and bringing in a LHD might make sense. Either way it's exciting to have this much talent in the system right now so we'll see how they use it all.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 30, 2023 at 2:28 p.m.
Thread: Keep on rollin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>benjgc</b></div><div>That's all well and good, but it doesn't address the larger needs this franchise has (more center depth, better goalie prospects/depth). We have young, talented D in Bean, Boqvist, Peeke, and Blankenburg before we even get to Svozil/Mateychuk/Jiricek. Let's see if the kids can benefit from being on a team with established, experienced defenders and learning from them before we expend major assets for MORE veterans.</div></div>

These trades don't make the center depth any worse though, you're essentially flipping Roslovic into JGP. You're not going to be able to add a center without spending some useful pieces.

And that's not what I was trying to do anyway. My goal was find a cheaper stop-gap 1C since we know Fantilli will likely be in Columbus this year and we need an upgrade over Roslovic and even out the defenseman for next year. None of these moves prevent anyone from earning a role and provide depth/options for certain roles. If Jiricek/Bean/Svozil show they're ready to be in the big show full time, awesome! now you can trade someone for goalie depth/prospects or whatever you want. If they're not ready, that's fine too. Throw Bean/Peeke in the lineup and see if they continue to grow. It's all about competition and continuing to allow young guys to grow, but also turning the team around to at least win a few more games next year. Personally, Bean/Blankenburg are not full time NHL players, but this gives them the opportunity to prove me wrong and protects the team if they don't pan out this year.

Also, I wouldn't call Jack Roslovic a Major asset.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 30, 2023 at 12:14 p.m.
Thread: Keep on rollin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>benjgc</b></div><div>IDK who came up with this Roslovic/Grzelcyk framework, but it's awful for Columbus. With the retention on Roslovic, Columbus would be paying Grizz essentially $6M this year. You've got a defensive starting lineup that costs $33M all by itself, not counting Bean, and manages to keep Jiricek in Cleveland (and it's not clear that would be necessary, so why force the issue?). I'm fine trading Roslovic, Peeke, Bean, or even Boqvist for the right return, but yet another high-priced defenseman doesn't fit the bill here.</div></div>

CBJ used 14 defenseman last year, so I wouldn't get rid of anyone until you have to or it really makes sense. If Jiricek forces his way into the lineup, then great! You'll just have to make a corresponding move down the line.

I also just think the LD needs balanced out still. Yeah that D-core is super expensive, but it's just for one year and then you let Grizz walk, just like we'd probably let Roslovic walk if he made it through the whole season with us. It's the same idea as getting Severson, but for the lefties! Use Provorov/Grizz to protect Svozil/Mateychuk from being forced into the lineup before they're ready.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 30, 2023 at 12:07 p.m.
Thread: Keep on rollin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dopplsan</b></div><div>Interesting idea for JGP, though I just don’t think he’ll be able to handle the top line, or worse - bring it down. Also, I have to imagine CBJ are on his no trade.

I do like the Grizz trade, though. It would sure as hell make for an improved blue line, even if that is a hell of an expensive third pair.

I like Jiricek getting as much time as needed in the AHL.



My issue is, Boqvist is an offensive-D. He needs T4 minutes, and to play with Fs higher in the lineup. With Jiricek and Severson in front of him, he’s not getting that. If anything, he’s redundant after Severson.</div></div>

Yeah JGP being that high in the lineup may not work too well, but I also wouldn't expect him to be there too long. I think Fantilli will acclimate very fast and be on the top line by January. Then you have JGP battling/mentoring Sillinger in the 2C/3C spots. I just think this team desperately needs to improve in the faceoff circle, but there's other trade/FA options that could fit the role too.

I also hated getting rid of Boqvist, but you're right. He will not be as effective as he could be if he's stuck on the 3rd pair.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 30, 2023 at 12:01 p.m.
Thread: Keep on rollin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CaseyFlyman</b></div><div>This is pretty close to my ideal opening-night lineup, with a couple changes:
1. I'd rather see Peeke get moved for JGPG over Boqvist, I think he's redundant with Gudbranson and Boqvist has the much higher ceiling (and is already underrated). Not sure what that does to the value for that trade, but including Boqvist+ already seems like a slight overpay.
2. I'm assuming Jiricek cracks the opening night lineup, but even if he starts in the AHL he's going to end up in the NHL by the end of the year. A D-core of Z-Severson, Provorov-Jiricek, and Grzelyk-Boqvist would probably be top-10 in the league. Svozil probably forces his way into the lineup in 24-25.

Spot on about Merzlikins, and I love those lines. Lets hope more than half the team can stay healthy this year!</div></div>

I definitely agree that I'd rather see Peeke get traded than Boqvist, but I know NYI are probably looking for scoring and that's one thing he has proven he can do so that was my thought process. And also why I threw in Bemstrom as a possible change-of-Scenery guy who could provide depth scoring.

It would not surprise me at all to see Jiricek earn an opening night slot, and if that happens you'd just have to make another move further down the line. But yeah, the best thing that can happen for CBJ this year is some health!