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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 12:47 p.m.
Thread:
Bye Talbot
This would make me happy!
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 11:26 a.m.
Thread:
Where to go from here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jnowariak</b></div><div>From what I gather, he does. Beckman is an offensive weapon and probably won’t be more than that (not complaining). But Ohgren was used in scoring roles in J20 and as a 2-way winger in the SHL. He has the smarts to play how coach wants him to play.
We should have a lot better idea of his upside when he’s put into a bigger role in the Allsvenskan.</div></div>
The more I read about Ohgren, the more I like him! He’s also a workout fanatic so he will fit right in with Ek, Rossi, et all.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 11:49 a.m.
Thread:
Where to go from here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jnowariak</b></div><div>Vanacek just went to NJD. Caps want a “vet presence”. Talbot could bring back a 2nd at this point and that’s too much to pass up IMO.</div></div>
I'd rather have Puljujärvi than a 2nd in next year's draft.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 12:06 p.m.
Thread:
Where to go from here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>I'd rather have Puljujärvi than a 2nd in next year's draft.</div></div>
I would love to get Puljujarvi and put him with Boldy and Rossi!!!
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 11:01 a.m.
Thread:
Where to go from here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MNBassman</b></div><div>I’m hoping Ohgren processes the game a lot better/faster than Beckman does!</div></div>
From what I gather, he does. Beckman is an offensive weapon and probably won’t be more than that (not complaining). But Ohgren was used in scoring roles in J20 and as a 2-way winger in the SHL. He has the smarts to play how coach wants him to play.
We should have a lot better idea of his upside when he’s put into a bigger role in the Allsvenskan.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 10:56 a.m.
Thread:
Where to go from here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jnowariak</b></div><div>I feel like Beckman and Ohgren are very similar players. Both have legit shots but Beckman might be the better skater and Ohgren has the better 2-way game (at 18 anyway). Could see either guy next to JEEk or Rossi.</div></div>
I’m hoping Ohgren processes the game a lot better/faster than Beckman does!
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 10:34 a.m.
Thread:
Where to go from here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>I think it's been overblown a fair but on the whole Talbot thing. That feels more like Talbot's agent being upset about Fleury's re-signing then Talbot will be about it himself.
I don't think Talbot moves.
But who knows what'll happen today.
If he does, I hope it's to Edmonton for the rights to Puljujärvi with other stuff added in by both sides to even stuff out.</div></div>
Vanacek just went to NJD. Caps want a “vet presence”. Talbot could bring back a 2nd at this point and that’s too much to pass up IMO.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 10:30 a.m.
Thread:
Where to go from here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>I know it breaks up the Russian line thought. But I've particularly cared for novelties like that in my hockey.
But I'd rather have Rossi centering Kaprizov and Boldy and a Ohgren-Khusnutdinov-Yurov line instead.
I prefer it for several reasons.
1) This gives Kaprizov the best center possible.
2) Each line will have a power forward, a defensive minded center who can score and distribute the puck, and a highly skilled Russian winger.
3) Yurov's game will likely be a better fit for Khusnutdinov given they're both players who play with a ton of pace and speed. And while Ohgren might be a step behind those two he still has some speed to his game too.</div></div>
I feel like Beckman and Ohgren are very similar players. Both have legit shots but Beckman might be the better skater and Ohgren has the better 2-way game (at 18 anyway). Could see either guy next to JEEk or Rossi.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 10:28 a.m.
Thread:
Where to go from here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>I know it breaks up the Russian line thought. But I've particularly cared for novelties like that in my hockey.
But I'd rather have Rossi centering Kaprizov and Boldy and a Ohgren-Khusnutdinov-Yurov line instead.
I prefer it for several reasons.
1) This gives Kaprizov the best center possible.
2) Each line will have a power forward, a defensive minded center who can score and distribute the puck, and a highly skilled Russian winger.
3) Yurov's game will likely be a better fit for Khusnutdinov given they're both players who play with a ton of pace and speed. And while Ohgren might be a step behind those two he still has some speed to his game too.</div></div>
IF all these kids pan out, the Wild will have by far the most talented and versatile group of forwards in franchise history! Making line combos will be a very enjoyable chore!
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 10:24 a.m.
Thread:
Where to go from here
I would not be surprised if Talbot moves today. Kulikov is probably a guy that moves after the UFA dust settles. But yeah. This looks right.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 10:23 a.m.
Thread:
Where to go from here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wildnochance</b></div><div>Does anyone feel like Minnesota's wild history makes our GM's and scouts prone not to care about drafting C's. Don't understand why they selected an LW in the 1st round</div></div>
There were no Cs at those picks worth taking. Ohgren adds a shot we don’t have in the pool and has 50-60 pt upside. Yurov is a top 10 pick on talent. And for everybody whining about size, there you go.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 10:10 a.m.
Thread:
Where to go from here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MNBassman</b></div><div>Great minds think alike! I switched that right before I saw your post</div></div>
That is potentially 2 very good, very fun lines to watch!
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 10:09 a.m.
Thread:
Where to go from here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TanSor</b></div><div>All Russian line: Kaprizov/Khusnutdinov/Yurov</div></div>
Great minds think alike! I switched that right before I saw your post
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 10:07 a.m.
Thread:
Where to go from here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MNBassman</b></div><div>I can already envision these lines: Ohgren/Rossi/Boldy, Kaprizov/?/Yurov</div></div>
All Russian line: Kaprizov/Khusnutdinov/Yurov
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 10:05 a.m.
Thread:
Where to go from here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TanSor</b></div><div>Definitely agree on preferring a center, I was <em>really</em> hoping Nazar would fall. I like Ostlund a bit too, but he went before our pick as well. Completely agree on wanting a center and RHD in the 2nd round.
I didn't know much about Ohgren before the draft, but reading about him it seems like a decent pick. Scott Wheeler is really high on him, had him ranked 14th in his rankings. Pronman isn't quite as high on him and ranked him at 28th. Seems like he's a goal scorer which we definitely need and plays with good pace and compete. I'm getting flashbacks to 2019 when we took Boldy for Ohgren since I didn't know a ton about Boldy then and they seem like sort of similar prospects.
That said, I LOVE the Yurov pick. Was really hoping we'd grab one of the Russians. I preferred Miroshnichenko, but Yurov looks like a really talented player and I think he could be one of the best prospects to come out of this class when we look back in 5-10 years. It will probably take several years to get him over here, but having Kaprizov on our roster doesn't hurt that.</div></div>
I can already envision these lines: Ohgren/Rossi/Boldy, Kaprizov/Khusnutdinov/Yurov
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 10:01 a.m.
Thread:
Where to go from here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MNBassman</b></div><div>How do you like the Wild’s picks so far? A center would have been nice, but I have been arguing for awhile now that the Wild’s pool of wingers is poor and I love both these picks!
I’d like to see a C and a RHD taken in the 2nd.</div></div>
Definitely agree on preferring a center, I was <em>really</em> hoping Nazar would fall. I like Ostlund a bit too, but he went before our pick as well. Completely agree on wanting a center and RHD in the 2nd round.
I didn't know much about Ohgren before the draft, but reading about him it seems like a decent pick. Scott Wheeler is really high on him, had him ranked 14th in his rankings. Pronman isn't quite as high on him and ranked him at 28th. Seems like he's a goal scorer which we definitely need and plays with good pace and compete. I'm getting flashbacks to 2019 when we took Boldy for Ohgren since I didn't know a ton about Boldy then and they seem like sort of similar prospects.
That said, I LOVE the Yurov pick. Was really hoping we'd grab one of the Russians. I preferred Miroshnichenko, but Yurov looks like a really talented player and I think he could be one of the best prospects to come out of this class when we look back in 5-10 years. It will probably take several years to get him over here, but having Kaprizov on our roster doesn't hurt that.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 9:51 a.m.
Thread:
Where to go from here
How do you like the Wild’s picks so far? A center would have been nice, but I have been arguing for awhile now that the Wild’s pool of wingers is poor and I love both these picks!
I’d like to see a C and a RHD taken in the 2nd.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 12:02 a.m.
Thread:
sigh well this is what were working with
We don't have the cap space to do this and we already have 8 D under contract next year. Even if we end up trading Dumba (which I doubt we will), we don't need another defenseman.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 2:24 a.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2223 Opening Night
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cnick19</b></div><div>Kerfoot led the Leafs in secondary assists, and Marcus is much better than his brother was when the Leafs acquired him. I love Kerfoot and would be upset if he left but Foligno brings more value to a team, no question. Also low 1st round draft picks are overrated anyway.</div></div>
There are bound to be cheaper options (in terms of cap and assets required to acquire) on the trade market+fa possible
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 2:20 a.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2223 Opening Night
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>Yeah, that's the same with his brother, then it was a calculated risk that didn't work. Here, it's just trading a higher producer for someone who is better defensively so it's a trade off. There's other options in fa that are likely better than the both. So, giving up the assets for the Leafs wouldn't make sense, and taking a higher hit (even for one year) doesn't make sense for the wild since they would have to replace what Foligno brings with a second player perhaps but also replace Kerfoot for the next two dead cap years, instead of replacing Foligno (potentially) in the last.</div></div>
Kerfoot led the Leafs in secondary assists, and Marcus is much better than his brother was when the Leafs acquired him. I love Kerfoot and would be upset if he left but Foligno brings more value to a team, no question. Also low 1st round draft picks are overrated anyway.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 2:12 a.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2223 Opening Night
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>It's not like we'd trade him for that anyway. It would take a gross overpay for us to consider it. And this ain’t it.</div></div>
Yeah, that's the same with his brother, then it was a calculated risk that didn't work. Here, it's just trading a higher producer for someone who is better defensively so it's a trade off. There's other options in fa that are likely better than the both. So, giving up the assets for the Leafs wouldn't make sense, and taking a higher hit (even for one year) doesn't make sense for the wild since they would have to replace what Foligno brings with a second player perhaps but also replace Kerfoot for the next two dead cap years, instead of replacing Foligno (potentially) in the last.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 1:59 a.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2223 Opening Night
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>Marcus Foligno isn't it, gross overpay. I know they gave a first for his brother, but that was the price to acquire him as a rental.</div></div>
It's not like we'd trade him for that anyway. It would take a gross overpay for us to consider it. And this ain’t it.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 8, 2022 at 1:56 a.m.
Thread:
Leafs 2223 Opening Night
Marcus Foligno isn't it, gross overpay. I know they gave a first for his brother, but that was the price to acquire him as a rental.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 7, 2022 at 4:05 p.m.
Thread:
Minnesota commits to Fleury
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BUFF36</b></div><div>Be surprised if Mitts was enough</div></div>
Really like Addison, I actually was gonna counter with Mitts and 74, but reading some posts here why add the pick
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 7, 2022 at 10:13 a.m.
Thread:
Dumba trade
Maybe, if Dumba comes with a reasonable extension. Jarmo has done a lot of talking about how he sees players with only 1 year left on their contracts though and it hasn't been exactly high praise.
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