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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed. at 6:24 p.m.
Thread:
Trade Ive seen everywhere by Vancouver fans
Isles look to dump Pageau first before making a move like this however if they can't do that this is something they should definitely consider
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon. at 4:39 p.m.
Thread:
gabagool ova here
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>Islanders accept in terms of value but Brock isn't getting traded with Lamoriello as GM
If its the 2025 TDL and the Isles are out of the playoffs then I see it tho. Good work, sadly Lmaoriello isn't as smart as you are. He refuses to acknowledge the obvious</div></div>
If Lou doesn't take this:
A lottery 1st
A 2nd
And a former 1st rounder
For a 30 year old player on the last year of his contract with no retained salary he should be fired on the spot
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 5 at 2:00 p.m.
Thread:
Tavares
I know SJS were on his list of teams when he was a UFA but that was a long time ago. Doubt he'd be interested now
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 2 at 8:22 p.m.
Thread:
Ehlers
Swap Holmstrom, Nelson and the picks for Pulock
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 1 at 3:09 p.m.
Thread:
Islanders talks reengaged
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>Hawks have the cap space and the islanders could retain another 1 mil and easily yield positive value
take out the retention and its a deal</div></div>
Thats not the worst thing in the world for the hawks, and if it gets it across the finish line I think they would make that change. I am tempted to ask for more if its the full 7 million dollar cap hit though. Maybe another pick swap or late rounder?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 1 at 9:29 a.m.
Thread:
Islanders talks reengaged
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>Hawks have the cap space and the islanders could retain another 1 mil and easily yield positive value
take out the retention and its a deal</div></div>
Yeah. I'm pretty sure if the Isles are retaining that much, they could get positive value, or at least pay a lot less to move him. Plus, retention kind of defeats the purpose of moving him in the first place. If the Isles want to create cap space and do a quick re-tool, rather than rebuild, they should be looking to move the entire cap hit.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 30 at 4:21 p.m.
Thread:
if you are going to trade with the Islanders
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>I agree all prospects are on the table, but I cant see Jefferies or Nelson being shopped. Nelson is the exact type of player Lou loves and Jefferies is so close to making the NHL that moving on from his ELC for two seasons is hard to imagine
I want Varly gone but both goalies ill have NTCs next season. I just don't see it unfortunately.
If it were purely up to me, Varly, Pelech, Pulock, Palmieri, Lee, Pageau, Cizikas, Wahlstrom, Mayfield, Engvall are all gone. But sadly that isn't happening</div></div>
Fair, but still... Got a feeling Lou might go all in next year
Couldn't see that, it makes more sense why they have those 2 goalies now...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 30 at 3:20 p.m.
Thread:
if you are going to trade with the Islanders
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>I think
Jake Evans
WPG 2024 1st Round Pick (27th)
For
J.G. Pageau
NYI 2024 1st Round Pick (18th)
NYI 2024 2nd Round Pick (50th)
is a fair deal. One note on Harris is that the Islanders have no need for him. I like him a lot but we have Pelech and Romanov plus Bolduc who is developing quite well. It seems like Mike Reilly will be brought back as a plateau option with Bolduc for a season so adding Harris with the current roster doesn't make too much sense, although I'm sure a bunch of teams out there would be interested in him
I like the deal you proposed though, and truthfully could see it happen if Lamoriello realises we need to shed money</div></div>
I'm on board with this trade. It gives MTL more quality (18th overall vs 27th overall), and I don't think they really need the cap space for anything else over the next 2 years. Probably would depend on if they like someone on the board at that pick.
Understand regarding Harris, I overlooked Bolduc.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 30 at 2:51 p.m.
Thread:
if you are going to trade with the Islanders
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>Id make a move for sure.
Evans and Pageau are both in it, with no retention on Pageau. From there, id be willing to go a few ways. The first, and ideal option is to trade back. Do something like
18 OVR (NYI's 2024 1st), NYI 2025 3rd Round Pick and Pageau FOR Evans + 26OVR (WPG's 2024 1st to MTL)
or
Pageau + Wahlstrom + NYI 2025 3rd Round Pick for Evans + MTL 2025 7th Round Pick
or
Pageau + William Dufour for Evans + MTL 2027 5th Round Pick</div></div>
So now that I've discovered this draft pick value calculator which includes a salary dump calculation as well I'm going to lean into that:
A fair deal would be Evans for Pageau and 27th overall. But the Islander's don't own 27th overall they have 18 and 50.
So I would propose MTL trades up to 18th overall... and the calculated cost to do so would be to trade 39th overall back. But MTL doesn't have that, they have 27th overall and 57th. The cost to trade up to 39th from 57th is to add 59th... so here is my proposal.
Jake Evans
Jordan Harris (Substitute for 59th overall)
2024 2nd Round Pick (Colorado - Proj. 57th)
For
J.G. Pageau
2024 1st Round Pick (18th Overall)
Edit... I screwed something up looking at the WPG pick scenario. Hang on.
Ok so option 2 is:
Jake Evans
WPG 2024 1st Round Pick (27th)
For
J.G. Pageau
NYI 2024 1st Round Pick (18th)
NYI 2024 2nd Round Pick (50th)
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 30 at 2:04 p.m.
Thread:
if you are going to trade with the Islanders
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Icelander24</b></div><div>I’d be fine with a trade like that but what would the trade compensation be?</div></div>
Honestly I'm not sure, Pageau and Evans are essentially equal players more or less so it's basically like a pure cap dump of $3.3M × 2 years (technically $3.3M plus $5M since Evans only has one year left).
So are there any comparables of cap dumps in that range? I'd have to assume you'd be looking to get at least a 2nd round pick and go from there.
Edit: Here's a reference that analyzes draft pick value and then compared that to the history of cap dumps and salary retention trades to develop a chart for valuing cap space vs draft picks.
https://puckpedia.com/PerriCapRelief
For $5M in cap space, the compensation is 32nd overall. So for $3.3M × 2 years ($6.6M), you're looking at a 1st round pick. Now Pageau probably isn't a pure cap dump (he is viewed as such in this scenario since Evans is a direct replacement) but if the goal is to just purely dump Pageau with no replacement then it might cost less. I was interested in throwing in Jordan Harris sweetener who would probably be your 6th D next year because MTL needs to clear a spot on defense anyways... but basically MTL would need a late 1st or early 2nd to justify this trade.
Edit 2.0: If I read closer I'd see there is a calculator here... https://puckpedia.com/CapRelief
$3.3M × 2 years is an expected value of 27th overall.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 30 at 11:38 a.m.
Thread:
if you are going to trade with the Islanders
So let's make a deal:
Pageau ($5M × 2 years - 31 years old)
82GP, 11G, 22A, 33P, 55.4 FO%
EV: 12:29, 44.16 GF%, 46.54 xGF%
PP: 1:31, 1.0 P/60
PK: 1:54, 7.94 GA/60, 8.40 xGA/60
Evans ($1.7M × 1 year - 27 years old)
82GP, 7G, 21A, 28P, 52.2 FO%
EV: 12:42, 44.74 GF%, 44.07 xGF%
PP: n/a
PK: 3:10, 9.32 GA/60, 10.74 xGA/60
You get a cheaper and younger replacement for Pageau (frees up $3.3M to invest elsewhere).
We get a local player and some sort of compensation for the contract.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 30 at 11:18 a.m.
Thread:
Could Marner Work
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div> although it is a fun idea</div></div>
Maybe for Toronto fans. It's more than a minor annoyance for us Kings fans.
I appreciate you trying to stem the tide of Leafs fans living in fantasy land where every team thinks their players are the best so we give up our best players for them.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 30 at 11:13 a.m.
Thread:
if you are going to trade with the Islanders
So basically, "if you are going to trade with us, you have to trade for our UFA rights and/or our garbage"
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 30 at 10:55 a.m.
Thread:
Could Marner Work
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HollywoodHudon</b></div><div>A. You are over the cap.
B. Where is Marner?</div></div>
Lol read the description.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
Apr. 29 at 6:40 p.m.
Thread:
Marner - Sorokin framework
The most valuable piece in this trade from either side is Noah Dobson how do you expect to just slide him in here
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 26 at 9:22 a.m.
Thread:
Blow it up
Islanders should probably do what Kings did with their rebuild. Keep the core players and get few high picks.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 26 at 9:23 a.m.
Thread:
Blow it up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jfkst1</b></div><div>Lou isn't allowed to do this. NYI are stuck in purgatory for years now. Not bad enough for ownership to rebuild. Not good enough to compete. Just like PIT, WSH, and TBL.</div></div>
Tampa is not like NYI/WAS/PIT lol.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 25 at 12:19 p.m.
Thread:
Absolutely committing to it
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>I was gonna dump both in the same deal but decided not to. Maybe just do Wahlstrom + Lee + Pageau + 18OVR (or so) for like some random depth forward and call it a day</div></div>
Or just keep Wahlstrom. Lee, JGP and the 1st for F/C?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 25 at 12:12 p.m.
Thread:
Absolutely committing to it
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>I was gonna dump both in the same deal but decided not to. Maybe just do Wahlstrom + Lee + Pageau + 18OVR (or so) for like some random depth forward and call it a day</div></div>
Just make it Lee, Pageau and the 2024 1st (18 OV) and the Hawks would probably seriously consider it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 25 at 11:09 a.m.
Thread:
Absolutely committing to it
Hawks accept. Hawks might also make that JGP deal if Utah isn't interested.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 25 at 11:04 a.m.
Thread:
Absolutely committing to it
That's good value for Danforth but I'd rather we keep him; we just extended him, and he's a useful glue guy.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 24 at 9:19 a.m.
Thread:
Chychrun to Washington
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>they have so many LHD I doubt they do this unless they move a few of them out elsewhere.</div></div>
It would just push Fehervary out of the top 4 which I think would make their defensive lineup much stronger
Chychrun - Carlson
Sandin - Jensen
Fehervary - XXXXX
Alexeyev
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 21 at 3:08 p.m.
Thread:
Who Says No
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>Dallas lmao what????
This isnt even remotely close
Sorry that was mean.
Robertson isn't getting moved, but this is a great package to go after an available star. I think you could go after someone like Buchnevich for less than this so you get a star (Ik he is old for your liking) but you get someone. Or just develop and wait another few seasons</div></div>
I could see this package being of intrest to the blues, but i think theyd want a dman back over johnson or Marchenko
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
Apr. 21 at 2:33 p.m.
Thread:
Habs win Macklin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>Interesting idea and i think the value is fine, just unsure if SJS is willing to do this. Its not like they could retain on Anderson and flip so they may be detered. Not all that bad value though IMO, Barron is a stud</div></div>
I mean, SJ will gonna need somes young Dmans in their core and they will likely gonna want to add another draft pick in the 2024 Draft.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 18 at 10:44 a.m.
Thread:
Rebuild Summer Last one
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>Id be interested in Harris but it wouldn't include a top 50 pick, end of story.
Wahlstrom plus 3rd or 4th rounder? sure, idek if Habs have interest in him tho. Harris isn't worth more than that though, we have Romanov and Pelech, and Reilly has been amazing</div></div>
Agreed, I think the trades themselves would be reworked. The value of the original trades is fair, just not the team that are part of the deals.
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