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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 11, 2021 at 12:29 p.m.
Thread: Leafs Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>You said they are moving Kadri for cap....so they arent taking back cap which is giving him away for nothing but futures. They arent moving a top 6 player for pennies on the dollar

Kadri didnt fail the Avs. The team didnt lose bc of him, he didnt cause those turn overs in the 3rd period in games 3 and 5 for the avs to blow 2-0 leads late in the period.

stop projecting your own feels about the player onto the Avs fan base.</div></div>

I didn;t say the team lost because of him, I said that he failed the team. I still love Kadri and have no hard feelings towards him. I also never said they were trading for cap I said they would gain cap space by trading him. Lots of players in the NHL are good and make less than 4.5 Million a year that can be aquired.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 11, 2021 at 12:15 p.m.
Thread: Leafs Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Salzy</b></div><div>The Ducks have literally no other young player that plays RW apart from Jacob Perreault who isnt NHL ready. They can't afford to trade him especially with how much better he looked after those questionable trade rumors. They badly need to upgrade the offense and this trade downgrades it by a good margin. Trading Terry doesnt make sense for ANA

The 4th period reported that Steel, Lundestrom, Tracey and Perreault were the 4 most likely to be moved if they do make a deal, and if they do it would be for a high impact forward (Eichel is most mentioned)

I honestly only think Terry gets moved for a superstar (Other pieces would be added obviously) Eakins and Murray both had nothing but praise for him in the post-season interviews. Eakins called him "The most responsible player we have" and him Building chemistry with Zegras and Comtois is the most important thing for the Ducks next season. I honestly wouldnt trade Terry unless its in a package for a superstar.

His game really improved over the course of the season and best case for the Ducks this is a lateral move worst case Engvall is a 4th liner and Lily never makes the NHL, not nearly enough upside here for ANA giving up a top 6 two way forward that is playing with Comtois and the face of the franchise in Zegras</div></div>

Liljegren definitely has upside as at least a top 4 defenseman if not top pair. Terry has been in trade talks for months its not unrealistic to say they would take a B+/A- prospect for him considering he wants a change of scenery.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 11, 2021 at 12:05 p.m.
Thread: Leafs Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Salzy</b></div><div>Ducks only trade Terry in a package for a superstar player, not a decent prospect and a 4th liner.

He's the best 2-way forward on the team and looked better each game he played last season, especially while playing with Comtois and Zegras.

Once Eakins (Cant wait till his incompetent a** is gone) realized how good Terry is and put him in the right situations his game really took a step up</div></div>

He could definitely garner more but he's already been in trade conversations, Chris Johnston hinted at a player for the leafs that fits his description, and I was more or less going off of what other people I've seen value Terry at. A long term top 4 projected defenseman is definitely a good piece. Engvall is a bottom 6 player who given time will be a valuable 3rd liner on a good team. Could definitely have given more though.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2021 at 5:55 p.m.
Thread: Leafs Offseason 3
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>si5137</b></div><div>I think it should be fair to you to say that I am not a Leaf's fan and I do respect your opinion on your team.

As an objective fan - I just see more of the same issues with the structure of this team - an unbalanced, top-heavy team.
But, if the team wants to downgrade in net to pay another winger when the clear need is centre ice, then I am sorry to say it will just be more of the same results.
Especially, when you have Amirov and Robertson, who will find a home there soon enough.

With all due respect to Robertson - I think relying on him to play top line minutes is near-sighted. Anderson could very well kick the doors down, but he is waiver exempt, so why not allow him to continue to develop his game in the AHL - it has been a bizarre 2 seasons due to the pandemic, so some extra time in the AHL and being the first man up in case injury works too.

Coleman will be well sought after and your pitch will fall short to the actual number he will get - If you are looking for someone in the 3 million range Mattias Janmark is your guy - he is a very underrated player, who can play all over the ice, like Coleman.

I also have an issue with moving Spezza back to centre - I would look at Carl Soderburg as a stop-gap and pray that Hallander is ready soon. This move pushes Spezza back to the wing. Also, moving out Holl (when the team needs reliable RHD men) to sign a shot blocker for more $ and putting young Sandin on his off-hand - is a bad move.

Thanks for the banter and the hockey talk</div></div>

Jack Campbell gave an elite performance in the playoffs, after what was a great run for him in the regular season, he seems to be an upgrade if anything. In case of injury you give yourself an elite backup. Robertson I think is best suited for a top 6 role based on his skillset, and he has spent time on the second line in the past, with another year under his belt and playing with incredible talent alongside him I trust him to take on that duty as his brother did. I actually don't love Spezza in the middle but I like the roster and group of guys I put together so if he has to play there sometime he can. Personally I wouldn't see Soderberg as much of an upgrade at this point. The point about Sandin being on his off hand is certainly a good one, but I like Oleksiak on that third pairing a lot as a player who brings what we need, can play the modern game and use his massive frame effectively, I just don't see Holl as reliable, at this point, I'm not his biggest fan and I would pay the extra few hundred thousand if possible for Oleksiak over Holl. I think Janmark has lost that underrated player label, hes become widely talked about after the deadline and his playoff performance, and I think he will get overpaid. As a fan of the team I will tell you it is not a lack of depth, the guys that make this team top-heavy are the ones who disappointed. It is issues within the players internally, the way they choose to play in the playoffs. There is needs but if we could have had our core guys play playoff hockey this team would have easily made it out of the North, maybe even further. Ill leave it at that, even though I disagree with some of it, you gave very good analysis.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2021 at 2:03 p.m.
Thread: Leafs Offseason 3
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>si5137</b></div><div>I respect not having too much turnover and I understand seeing the amount of turnover on the Leafs roster I proposed looks unrealistic, but when you have so many UFA's and the age of those UFAs now add the another first round exit and expansion draft there will be a lots change happening.

And does Danault sign with the Leafs? Not sure, but he would be the guy I'd target and give that 5 m too. An important C like that, who will take important draws and match up against the other team's toughest lines, kill penalties, play some PP, and can step into a top 6 in case of injury to your top 2 centers.

If Hyman is an important cog in this wheel, then trading Nylander is the way to go and to get more balance.</div></div>

Knowing how important Hyman is to this team if they can choose between Hyman and Danault they take Hyman. In your team they have nothing on the Left wing also. I don't see the correlation between keeping Hyman and trading Nylander. Plain and simple they aren't trading one four the big 4 this offseason. The core has the talent but they need some adjustments internally and a few improvements around them.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2021 at 10:11 a.m.
Thread: Leafs Offseason 3
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>si5137</b></div><div>I think Hyman can get 5 on the open market and why should he take a cut when the others didn't.

And why invest another 4+ m when the Leafs need depth, the Leafs need a 3C - They need to move into a top 9 model, not a top 6.
what do you think of this - https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2439273</div></div>

Personally I dont love that lineup. You end up giving out large contracts anyways, may as well give it to the guy who we know is the engine of our team, the guy who wants to be here and is a big part of our locker room. I also tried to limit how much I changed the lineup for the sake of realism, we have developed guys like Brooks, Anderson, and Robertson to be a part of this team, you can't sit them another year. Hyman could get closer to 5ish somewhere potentially, or he could get half a million less here, with all the term he wants, where he grew up, has great relationships, wore an A for us, and be where he wants to be. Also do you really think Danault would sign here if he could choose?
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3, 2021 at 12:30 a.m.
Thread: Leafs Offseason 3
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>si5137</b></div><div>The signings of Coleman, Hyman, and Oleksiak are not enough.

Coleman is going to be sought after and will get a better deal than your offer. Hyman as well -
Oleksiak broke out this year and will be looking for Edmundson $.

Why not keep Holl and move Sandin to the leftside - I think you can retain Bogosian, but probably @ 1m.
Sign Soderburg as your 3C for 1 m AAV and push Spezza to your 3RW.</div></div>

I think Hyman could definitely take a discount, hes built his career here, grew up here, has great relationships, I think it could happen especially if we give him term. Bogo I think might take a small pay bump but 1 mill isnt unreasonable. Id be lying if I said I didn't stretch things just a bit in the leafs favour. I think inconsistencies is one of the major things in our identity we need to change, Holl embodies that and he makes a decent amount. Rielly is the same way but with his importance in the locker room and his playoff performance I think they don't trade him. You also have over a million and a half to spend. If your up each of Hyman, Oleksiak, and Coleman by half a million that could work. Remember this is a flat cap also, last years guys had to wait and ended up taking shorter deals for a little less. Coleman at 2.5-3, Hyman at 4-4.5(remember he would probably want to stay) and Oleksiak at 2-2.5 sounds good to me for all of them. I also looked at what other people had them getting. I think I would change it to each one up by half a million.