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May 17, 2023 at 10:08 p.m.
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HireMeShanny
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>perrystreett</b></div><div>Wilson will be re-signed and the caps 100% will not want to move him. Only way he’s moved is if someone way overpays and this isn’t close.</div></div>
Wishful thinking. The Caps aren't a playoff team and at least right now they don't look like they will be one next year either. Tom Wilson is a UFA in 1 year, why wouldn't they trade him to get some value? You can argue someone else will pay more I guess but he has a M-NTC so who knows what they get.
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Armchair-GM
May 17, 2023 at 10:04 p.m.
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HireMeShanny
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trevor31lv</b></div><div>Being more likely to miss playoffs than make is a far cry from legitimately contending like when they made TDL moves 4 years ago.
They also didn't do what you're claiming. They gave up a late 1st, 2 2nds, Duclair (who wasn't returning anyway), and a prospect who didn't amount to anything. They didn't mortgage their future and they knew Bob/Panarin were gone after the season, so they made moves to give themselves a better chance. 5-6 teams a year do that.
Regardless, your point in completely irrelevant considering the situations are nowhere near similar. 4 years ago they already had a good team that had a timetable. Now, they're in a rebuild/retool, whatever term you wanna use, that they're committed to and have a fantastic prospect pool they arent gonna disrupt to be slightly better and MAYYBEEEE make playoffs in the short term.</div></div>
That's the wrong way of looking at that situation completely. They had UFAs they knew were going and instead of trading them and looking to the future, they gave up futures betting on a middling team. More likely to see a bunch of teams making that decision than what Colombus did. So they lost the futures you mentioned and the futures from potential Panarin and Bobrovsky trades. The organization is a dumpster fire.
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Armchair-GM
May 17, 2023 at 9:48 p.m.
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HireMeShanny
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trevor31lv</b></div><div>He also Flat out said trading Jenner was a non starter at the trade deadline, so that's simply not gonna happen. Adding Marner doesn't make them a contender in the next 2 years before he leaves and it severely hurts them long term losing Johnson. Their gold tending duo is already set this year and 1 year of Murray just doesn't do anything for them. CBJ being interested in Marner years ago as an RFA doesn't matter cause the makeup of the team is way different now.
Simply looking at trade value and saying the values are close doesn't mean a trade makes sense. Having 2 years of Marner isn't what CBJ need, especially at the cost of their captain and arguably top prospect. A huge hit to their long term ceiling just to maybe be semi competitive the next 2 years would be absurdly stupid.</div></div>
"A huge hit to their long term ceiling just to maybe be semi competitive the next 2 years would be absurdly stupid". Oh, you mean like they did just a few years ago?
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Armchair-GM
May 17, 2023 at 9:39 p.m.
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HireMeShanny
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trevor31lv</b></div><div>How's Marner and Murray to CBJ realistic? Columbus needs centers, so let's trade our lone reliable center and a top end prospect we hope can be a top 6 C for another super expensive winger that's gonna leave in 2 years. Yep, makes a ton of sense. This has gotta be q troll post.</div></div>
CBJ have wanted Marner for a long time and who they got in net? The team is garbage and they can afford to take a 1 year risk on a goalie like that to make the Marner deal easier. 100pt selke nominee with 2 years left at a reasonable deal in the current market ain't cheap. You make a decent point about the positions, that could play a part for sure I mostly just looked at trade value for these deals.
I could see Marner and/or Murray going there for sure. More likely one, but a deal like that is possible perhaps with a player or picks difference like a Roslovic in place of one or the 3rd dropped.
Should keep in mind the CBJ GM isn't exactly the brightest bulb in the league we shouldn't pretend he is.
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Armchair-GM
May 17, 2023 at 9:07 p.m.
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HireMeShanny
Another guy who doesn't get term+age in deals I see. Doughty has 1 more year than Tavares and they are both still playing well. Heard the ex LA GM (2x cup GM) mention Tavares for Doughty straight across...but that's a bit crazy to me. That's the least likely to actually happen because of Tavares' NMC I don't think he's actually going anywhere unfortunately just tried to make that somewhat realistic.
The Marner+Murray to Colombus is 100% realistic and so is the Wilson trade. The only difference in the Wilson trade may be that they want a Robertson or something instead of Jarnkrok, but this team has the cap room to do it.
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Armchair-GM
May 17, 2023 at 8:51 p.m.
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HireMeShanny
That 2nd round pick is pretty much a late 1st and I threw a 3rd in there with a good player that has 3 years of term left. Wilson has 1 year left until UFA. Contract length matters my guy. Also, Washington isn't winning anything they will want to trade Wilson 100% in the offseason or deadline.
Only reason Wilson is ahead of Nylander is for lineup balance. This team has a bunch of jerks on it and I wanted a bigger, tougher one of them to be with Matthews and a faster winger with O'Reilly.
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