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Forum: Armchair-GM9 hours ago
Thread: who effin knows
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justinhollfan3</b></div><div>Well the difference is is that marner is a proven better player than Hall and Larsson is significantly older than when he was traded for Hall, if Marner were to be traded it would be for not one single player and that player would probably be a star calibre player as well</div></div>

i disagree on both fronts
heres my argument
Hall has won a Hart trophy and was a 1st overall pick..Marner is not better at this point.
Larson is a top pair stud RHD at a great cap hit which augments his value.

And of course Marner has a NTC which also lowers his value as does the fact he only hs 1 year left then becomes UFA...
Counter argument? Where do you believe I am wrong and why?
cheers (i am enjoying the banter)
ps we all know that if Mitch doesnt want to waive his NTC he gonna be here another year..id im brad and that is what i am dealt, i pivot and trade rielly to upgrade g or d
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 3:01 p.m.
Thread: get more hard hats
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KrakBirds23</b></div><div>Good question. RF traditionally builds teams through drafts. During his time in Carolina and now Seattle most of his deals are for draft picks and not prospects. The course for the team right now is get through the contracts from the expansion draft and find the star players organically rather than trading for them. Essential players (Eberle, McCann, Dunn) and RFA's without arbitration tend to be the focus at the moment. So the needs are draft picks and top RHD as they don't have a replacement on the team or on the farm. Most of the offers here have been for 2nd or 3rd pairing D's.

My guess is this off-season either Tanev or Gourde will be moved - Probably Tanev. And they will still look for a 3rd/4th line center (Bring back Wenneberg on a better team deal?) But I don't see them moving on from Larsson until they are eliminated from the playoffs, and Larsson can't be re-signed, at the trade dead line. Cost at that time will be a severe over pay from a team looking for a top end RHD.

Most of the offers from TML fans comes down to the undervalue of Larsson and over value of what they think could get it done. Asking Seattle to trade Larsson would be like Seattle asking for Riley in return for some of the guys on the Firebirds. Neither are close to what the teams need. Does Seattle need offense? Yes it does, but not at the cost of what the team is built around in defense. For that alone I don't think Toronto has available what Seattle would be looking for if they chose to move Larsson.</div></div>

not that it matters but I would move Rielly.
Thanks for the thoughful response I love to learn about other markets
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 28 at 5:35 p.m.
Thread: get more hard hats
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RecycleShark</b></div><div>Too much for Savard.

Not enough for Larsson.</div></div>

a 1st was the asking price for savard this past deadline..what would our backend look like with him back there now if wed paid that price..i dont think the leafs are the best at picking and developing (I know Easton had a good junior year..I think until he makes the pros and actually contributes the jury is still out)..Savard is ampngst league leaders in blocks for a D and he fits our needs, can make the first pass, has a decent shot fron the point..everyone wants to find a gem at the flee market instead of goiong on amazon and findoing exactly what they need just because you pay full price..idk, maybe im wrong.
And what do you think the asking price for Larson would be?
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 28 at 1:21 p.m.
Thread: cap space
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jded</b></div><div>Yeah look I’m super not opposed to Marner personally (though there are some Ducks fans who are just because of the $12M he wants).

To me the problem is what value is be willing/able to give as ANA
1. I wouldn’t give up a single piece of the core for him (Leo, McT, Z, Gauthier, Terry, Zell, Minty, Zell, ‘24 ANA 1st).
2. Half our vets have outright said no to TOR (Gibby, Gudas, Fowler)
3. He’s a pending UFA, so while there’s hope he’d re-sign in ANA if he’s waive for us, there’s nothing concrete, which hurts the value I’d give up mid-rebuild

Would I do Vatrano, Lacombe, and the EDM 1st? Totally. Would TOR though?</div></div>

probably not, and you make good points\the leafs arent interested in the younglings (dont fit our window) and your vets Fowler and Gibby are the only ones Id take (but if they stay true to their public claims) dont want to play under the big lights of the hockey meca..its not for evertbody...as for the taxes well I think Cali and Ontario are in the same boat..plus is \cali is nice weather but Tor is...idk
I am on the verge of switching teams if they dont figure it out..was a Nordiques fan as a kid, until they moved..maybe I go back to cheering for the Avs? lol
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 28 at 11:27 a.m.
Thread: cap space
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jded</b></div><div>Noted on $12. For Gibby and a late 1st I’d go for it as ANA. But in reality this is super farfetched because the odds of Marner waiving for ANA are low, and the odds of Gibby doing so for TOR are even worse, let alone trade values etc</div></div>

your concerns are real..wouldnt he look good with Trevor? and I think with all the backlash hes getting atm he may welcome the Ducks (a place where he could get lost in the crowd of sports) where he could be a leader and in a western conf where is style is better suited for...I love Mitch, man that guy is smart and such vision, but not suited for east (too big n strong d first) and we need a bonafide starter so hes money is needed elsewhere..not moving Matthews, Willy or JT
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 28 at 11:22 a.m.
Thread: cap space
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DFinn91</b></div><div>Sure the leafs gain cap space, but in my opinion they’re not getting good value in return for those 3 players. You’re trading an elite wing, a good right shot d, and a good bottom six player for a late first, a late second, and a goalie who hasn’t been good in 5 years. That’d be a bad return for Marner alone.</div></div>

What I think Im getting from your evaluation is you dont believe Gibby can find his game on a better team like the Leafs (using better lightly after last nights game against Bos smh)
Cap relief has value..and yes your right the picks are a bit late but I think we may be over valuing Marner..hes a great playmaker and smart af but not a world beater. (only a couple of those guys in the league I know)
Liljegren is an ok bottom 4 D and replaceable and Jarnkrok is also a good utility player and replaceable for cheaper (imo)
the cap space would be good to shore up checking fwds and Dmen suited for east style of game.
But I do get your concerns about the trade..trades are usually good if both fan bases hate it..meaninhg no one is getting fleeced and both teams get better.