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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 3 at 1:43 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 2 at 9:19 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 1 at 7:41 p.m.
Thread: warp
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>Jarvis has been better this year, wich is understandable because Caufield is struggling offensively and coming back from an injury, but he has been worse the 2 seasons before. However, Jarvis is better defensively. So Caufield is superior offensively, Jarvis defensively and offensively this season. Overall, Jarvis is better but it’s a much closer comparison than Caufield and Necas.</div></div>

Jarvis is drastically better than Caufield. Necas is the closer comparable. Jarvis is better defensively, offensively, as a goal scorer, as a physical presence (this sounds so stupid for a dude that is 5'10, but he HAS to lead the league in hits against guys who are half a foot taller than he is) . It's not close, plus, your favorite defense, Jarvis is younger. He's on pace for around 70 points this year, which is better than anything Caufield has done.

To get Jarvis, you have to start with Suzuki. There's nothing else worth Jarvis on the Habs roster.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 1 at 4:08 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 1 at 7:24 p.m.
Thread: Who has more value in a trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ryminister_92</b></div><div>This whole narrative of "plays a more important position" is so overblown on here.

Draisaitl is better offensively, that's it. Marner plays a complete 200ft game, is a much, much better defender, and is a key piece to both the PP and PK units in Toronto. &amp; the whole "$2.5mil less is gonna be absolutely blown away when Draisaitl makes more than Marner in a year.

The correct answer is that they're about equal in value BUT Marner is more important to Toronto than Draisaitl is to Edmonton.</div></div>

It's not even close. Being better defensively is nice, but you know what matters more? Being better in the playoffs. Draisaitl has 21 more goals and 30 more points in 1 fewer playoff games. Leafs fans are the only ones who can't see what is obviously true lmao.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 1 at 3:48 p.m.
Thread: Leafs get their 2C
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nhl_oilers</b></div><div>Not even close imo. Draisaitl is miles better, and it’s not even funny. I like Marner, but it would cost considerably more if you want a guy like Draisaitl.</div></div>

I was gonna say the same thing.

Look I absolutely love Marner as a player and think he is severely overhated by fans but the difference between him and Drai in value is just so much bigger than the 24th-32nd overall pick.

Firstly Drai is a centre and Marner is a winger, Centres are just far more valuable within this league than wingers. Drai has also been a large part of Edmontons PK unit which is a hole Marner is not able to fit. Frankly the only thing Marner will be able to replace is Drai's regular season point production. To Marners credit in the playoffs he has been much better the last few years but Drai has shown to kick it to another level when needed which I just don't think Marner can do.

If the leafs did want Drai this is what the package would most likely look like

Nylander + Woll + Lilijegren + Mcmann + 24'1st + 26'1st
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 1 at 3:44 p.m.
Thread: Leafs get their 2C
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ryminister_92</b></div><div>Obviously a huge hypothetical here, but I’d think both teams decline.

For the Oilers, this would leave them pretty thin at centre. IF they decide to move Draisaitl or had to, they’d have to get a centre back in the deal otherwise it sets them too far back.

For the Leafs, Draisaitl isn’t really the type of centre they’d be looking for. He’d make more than Marner on an extension (likely $13-$14M aav) and while it’s smarter to spend money on centres than wingers, Toronto needs more of a two way guy in the 2C spot - someone to help on the PP and PK and that’s not Draisaitl’s strong spot.

Marner is arguably more valuable to his team than Draisaitl is so I’d think Toronto would be more likely to get more in return and yet you have Toronto trading a 1st round pick as well as taking on Ceci’s cap dump for a year. Just doesn’t seem like a logical fit.</div></div>

Is this an April Fools joke? Toronto would go nuts having Matthews and Draisaitl down the middle for 5+ years.

Edmonton declines pretty easily.