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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 31, 2018 at 6:08 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 23, 2018 at 8:50 p.m.
Thread: Montreal trades at deadline and signings this summer (+explanations)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CaptainFlynnt</b></div><div>It has already been said but I gotta say it too, the return for pacioretty is low and disappointing.

Also the NYI trade doesn't make a lot of sense to me.. if NYI think plekanec is an upgrade then I guess they would do it (I don't think he is). They don't have to trade Nelson at all though. He is a RFA so even if they can't resign him another team would have to trade for his rights or offer sheet him anyways. Here's a scenario.. maybe Tavares leaves the Islanders and they could've re-signed Nelson but instead they traded him for a vet who is at the end of his career. It just doesn't make sense for the islanders.

Don't like the Bozak and JVR signings.. those are just plug moves that aren't going to help the team long term.</div></div>

Like I said on my first comment, add Daniel Carr and you have 1 good def center with 2 young guys witch makes a pretty decent trade offer. Montreal will have a hard time to sign good players this summer cause they never want to come play with us. This is what is possible more then what a perfect scenario would be! But I didn't know about Shaw's contract having a lower actual salary so it is true then that we could get more!
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 23, 2018 at 6:56 p.m.
Thread: Montreal trades at deadline and signings this summer (+explanations)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MONSTER1974</b></div><div>I like all those deals you've made up there. The only move I really don't like is Tyler Bozak. MTL can do better than him as a 1C. Statsny, Backlund, Tavares... I know JT is a stretch, but the other two are better than Bozak. For me, Bozak is David Desharnais 2.0.</div></div>

The reason why I chose Bozak was because he was right handed and has already played a lot with JVR. But you are right he is no 1C but we would have 3 lines that could be Mtl first. Also I would prefer a guy like Statsny for sure but I don't think he would want to sign here and a lot of team would want him, not Bozak. But yeah, for sure if we can get better at a decent price im down for that!
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 23, 2018 at 6:06 p.m.
Thread: Montreal trades at deadline and signings this summer (+explanations)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>i'm not bringing in Henrique said they weren't tapping that potential
for them getting a guy like Patches is no small thing as they are lead by centers
since Perry's decline so getting a guy like Patches helps them a lot .

Shaw statement stands i dont care what fans think , i use PROFESSIONAL assessment based on trade history and the fact that Lemiuex is 1 of the pieces WPG has rumored to offer up (so someone knows he has value to do that ) but more then that since leaving CHI they've re-acquired how many players from their cup teams trying to make the bottom 6 work again but it hasnt at all . Shaw is a right handed faceoff guy which is rare enough but more then that he's winning 55-57% faceoffs as a OZ zone draw which is unheard of in the bottom 6 and rare in the top 6 . (most stars strong on OZ faceoffs suck at NZ and DZ faceoffs , they dont get over 50% win rate for this reason .

on the shaw deal you'll see it sooner then later it sounds but on the patches Deal ANA is on the brink of a playoff spot , the need for a scoring winger is high after trading a top line D for a third line Center gearing up for playoffs at this point if they miss them they stunted Kossila's development for nothing</div></div>

Well I did not think about that for Anaheim, what do you think they can propose as a trade offer?
And for Shaw, I still think that even tho what you say is true, I am doubtful that we can trade him with out getting an other contract in return from any other team then Vegas.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 23, 2018 at 5:42 p.m.
Thread: Montreal trades at deadline and signings this summer (+explanations)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>pass on the patches deal its low value
ANA would give up way more and have the single largest surplus of Prospect Centers and D bar none .
with Henrique brought in its stunted Kossila's ability to grow in ANA

Shaws having a career high year , we will get more then we paid for him as most 3rd line players make 3-4 m when they lead bottom 6
and make no mistake Shaw is the best 3rd line leader in the NHL bar none at just age 26 .

JVR is **** , i wont elaborate its just a hard pass

Helm is a pointless move with Shaw there , his only upside since his production died is as a leader.
without Shaw there Helm is still a pointless move because he's slower then mccarron</div></div>

I'm pretty doubtful that Anaheim would sacrifice more since they have no guaranties that they will make the playoff. But if we can get more, why not. But Tolvanen having a possible 50 pts season in the khl at 18 makes him an elite prospect. For Shaw, I don't know where you get your info thinking that he has a good contract but everyone always says that he has a awful contract plus we don't really need him, we have so many players that play the same way. The Helm trade is mainly for the 2 round draft pick, not the player. We need to rebuild our prospect pool and we need picks to do so.