Smokingun71

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Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 19, 2020 at 12:08 a.m.

Thread: Playoff Contenders

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Smokingun71</b></div><div>And that’s why I said 4 no’s. Edmonton rejects them all</div></div>

thought u meant other teams said no. my bad

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 16, 2020 at 11:56 p.m.

Thread: Holland Got Fired

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Smokingun71</b></div><div>I would do that in a heartbeat!</div></div>
And Buffalo declines in a heartbeat.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 15, 2020 at 9:05 a.m.

Thread: Major leafs trade your thoughts

Switch johnsson with kerfoot

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 15, 2020 at 8:30 a.m.

Thread: Major leafs trade your thoughts

Do you have any idea who Ethan Bear actually is??

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 12, 2020 at 2:45 p.m.

Thread: Smythe Division Deal - WPG

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Smokingun71</b></div><div>Interesting trade with the Oilers but I think the number 1 option is to resign Nuge.</div></div>

It very much should be Holland's #1 priority.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 8, 2020 at 9:33 a.m.

Thread: McDavid wants to win

We have just as much as a chance to win a cup as you do.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2020 at 11:15 a.m.

Thread: Hooking up with the jets

Oilers pass

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2020 at 11:13 a.m.

Thread: Hooking up with the jets

I'll use the Trouba trade arguments, why wouldn't the Jets just wait till free agency and try to sign RNH for free?

I think this is bad for the Oilers and I'm a Jets fan, they should be signing RNH to a $7.25M×8 year deal not trading him, having him as a top 6 winger and as a backup to shift to center if one of McDavid or Draisaitl get injured is a luxury that shouldn't be traded away, other teams can only dream of having that kind of insurance.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 31, 2020 at 8:51 a.m.

Thread: Huberdeau

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Smokingun71</b></div><div>I wasn’t saying to trade Rantanen there. I was saying that both Rantanen and Huberdeau have equal values. If you were to trade Rantanen would you trade him for a package like that? I wouldn’t, so then I don’t think that Florida would trade Huberdeau for that package.</div></div>

Ill admit i misunderstood your original comment.
No, I would not move Rantanen for that package however, COL is heading in a much different direction.
FLA needs picks and prospects to rebuild, COL has no use for picks and prospects at this time

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 30, 2020 at 11:51 p.m.

Thread: Interesting trade

oilers don't do that. They are trying to contend and switching drai with laf isn't gonna help

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 30, 2020 at 10:15 p.m.

Thread: Getting Laf

Delete this. Not a single thing you've done here is beneficial to the Oilers.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 30, 2020 at 1:59 p.m.

Thread: Huberdeau

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Smokingun71</b></div><div>Yes different situations but you don’t trade a 90 point winger in Huberdeau for 2 third liners, 2 late firsts and a top prospect in Byram. I personally just wouldn’t do it, I think there would be much better offers</div></div>

If we use the Stone trade as a proxy, then this blows that return away. Yes Stone was on an expiring deal, but I think everyone knew he was going to re-sign.

In this case the return would need to be better because Huberdeau doesn't have one foot out the door the way Stone did. IMO, Byram, Kaut, and two firsts would be about right. It's tough to really put a trade value on star players though.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 30, 2020 at 1:09 p.m.

Thread: Huberdeau

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Smokingun71</b></div><div>I see Huberdeau and Rantanen as pretty close in value. Would you accept that type of trade for Rantanen??</div></div>

Different situations. Colorado is entering a window of contention and looking to add. Florida is allegedly looking to cut salary. Assuming the rumor about the Panthers cutting costs is true, then Byram and first round picks are what they probably need.

That said, I don't think Huberdeau gets traded yet. It might happen eventually, but they have time to see if they can right the ship and don't need to do anything rash.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28, 2020 at 5:01 p.m.

Thread: Oilers win lottery and then BLOW it up For FUN

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>No defenceman in the league is worth the public perception of Draisaitl. But is Slavin worth someone who produces like an 80 point player when taken away from McDavid? I'd say so.</div></div>
Draisaitl outscored McDavid this year whether together or apart.

While together (5v5)
Draisaitl: 3.04 P/60
McDavid: 2.93 P/60

While apart (5v5)
Draisaitl: 2.7523 P/60
McDavid: 2.7473 P/60

Here are some other players you might recognize:

Aho: 2.42 P/60
Svechnikov: 2.33 P/60
Teravainen: 2.22 P/60

Aho was on pace for 80 points. Are you saying Slavin is worth more than Aho?

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28, 2020 at 3:26 p.m.

Thread: Oilers win lottery and then BLOW it up For FUN

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>That would be Carolina's price. Slavin will not come cheaper. Nuge is a 2C, we have loads of those. For one of the best D men in the NHL, it'd need to be Draisaitl.</div></div>

This is how you get no one to ever take you seriously. No defenseman in the league is worth Draisaitl.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28, 2020 at 2:53 p.m.

Thread: Oilers win lottery and then BLOW it up For FUN

Fun read ...well done mang ...GO OILERS !!!

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28, 2020 at 2:40 p.m.

Thread: Oilers win lottery and then BLOW it up For FUN

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Smokingun71</b></div><div>Definitely would be a work in progress, it would take a few years to complete, but when we did I think we would rule for years!! I spent all my money on a stud defence and a top 5 goalie in the NHL</div></div>

For sure. We would probably even be the best! When their all up I mean.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 26, 2020 at 11:57 p.m.

Thread: Read the description part two

For the Oilers trade you forgot to add the typical Bracco and a 3rd.

Why would other cap strapped teams take on 6.9 million for 3 years for positions they dont need?

Unless teams strike out in free agency I cant see them paying anything significant for either player. Cap space is way more important.

Just hot garbage.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 26, 2020 at 6:01 p.m.

Thread: The perfect storm

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Smokingun71</b></div><div>He’s from Edmonton so maybe he takes a discount to play with McDavid. I would go as high as 7M</div></div>

Not likely, but let's pretend he would Montreal just turns around and offers 8. The Habs will not let him go without a fight even if it means they have to move another quality player like Tatar or Drouin

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 18, 2020 at 11:35 a.m.

Thread: trade with cats next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Smokingun71</b></div><div>I don’t think Florida is the right team for a Gallagher trade. They are going to be hard pressed to even be a playoff team next year. That’s a lot to give up for probably 1 year of Gallagher for a bubble team.</div></div>

with gally and denisinko theres two solid scoring lines , BOB though?

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 17, 2020 at 9:24 a.m.

Thread: Realistic Cap Outlook

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Smokingun71</b></div><div>Russel’s salary next year is 1.5M plus a 1M signing bonus. Since the bonus was paid on July 1 wouldn’t his salary be only 1.5M, therefore if we restrained 1M would bring it down to only 500k in actual cash being owed?</div></div>

You have to retain a percentage. It can be any amount up to 50%. So if you retain 50% of Russell's contract it leaves both teams paying $750k (50% of $1.5M) and both teams taking a $2M (50% of $4M) charge against their cap.

PS. You're right about the bonus, its already been paid so it doesn't factor in to any future move.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2020 at 5:05 p.m.

Thread: mkay

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Herms17</b></div><div>Why would you care what Russell is owed??? his cap space is 4 million. That is what he costs to building the team. The owner might care about that, but not the GM(to a point).

Oilers are delusional about the return for JP(i live in this city, trust me). He is a 22 year old bottom 6 forward till he proves the NHL otherwise. A second for a player that was drafted in 2016 that has done nothing ample of opportunity, is generous considering he couldn't even play on the Oilers and lack luster wing depth at that time. Just because he was a 4th overall pick 4 years ago shouldn't mean he should retain that value.

but either way, I value any opinion so thanks for not calling me a ****.</div></div>

In a covid world, the owners are losing money, they would look at russell since his real money is a lot less than his cap hit

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2020 at 4:36 p.m.

Thread: mkay

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Smokingun71</b></div><div>No way Holland does that deal. Russell is only owed 1.5M in actual wage so why would the oilers retain 2M? Puljujarvi won’t be involved in a trade with even more reduced value coming back</div></div>

(a) Russell might return a 4th without retention and (b) Holland won't accept a 2nd for Puljujarvi.

This is more in line with what CF users think these players are worth. Par for the course.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2020 at 10:41 a.m.

Thread: Tim and Kerry are Lost

yeah oilers ain't taking that

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2020 at 10:41 a.m.

Thread: Tim and Kerry are Lost

Edmonton lol's

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