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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 10:49 p.m.

Thread: Odd Future

I doubt Jones will be playing next season unless he has a major turnaround

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 10:48 p.m.

Thread: leafs can win the cup easy

not sure we want a defenseman

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 7:24 p.m.

Thread: What would you give for Goodrow

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>Maybe I’m crazy but I’d ask for what Coleman got. Wouldn’t sell for like a Boston or Tampa first alone, I would want more. He’s to vital to us rn and next season.</div></div>

I think close to what he got, but a little less

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 6:57 p.m.

Thread: Trading Burns Scenario 1 DAL

Don't think that's enough from Dallas

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 6:39 p.m.

Thread: What would you give for Goodrow

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>papishark</b></div><div>I wouldnt move him for anything less than a late first. If Coleman got what he got, Goodrow can get half that.</div></div>

I agree, just wanting to see if other teams would offer that

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 4:54 p.m.

Thread: Whos next

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Dell is a UFA tho</div></div>

I mean 2 different goalies that aren't already in San Jose

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 4:48 p.m.

Thread: Whos next

Here is my opinion on all these players

Thornton and Marleau- from a strategic standpoint, it would be good to get whatever we can for them (like a 3rd, maybe a 2nd if we're lucky) because they have good chances of retiring after this season

Sorensen- A lot of people want to trade him, but i'm not so sure. He has been a healthy scratch at times but has a good contract in my opinion

Melker- I would want to trade him. Get maybe a 3rd or 4th

Radil, Heed, Prout, Noesen, and Brodzinski- If anyone wants them, take them!

Dell- Dell is tricky. He's played decent as of late and has 1 year left. Since we will most likely buyout Jones in the offseason, it might be tricky getting 2 goalies in free agency. I wouldn't be opposed to trading him though.

Simek and Goodrow- the only two i'm really opposed to. Simek a great defender who can also put points on the board. I don't think he'll be expensive to re-sign either. Goodrow is on a great contract and has risen to the occasion with all the injuries.

Gambrell and Suomela- Probably not. young prospects with decent upside.

Last but not least, Labanc- I really want to trade him. Nothing against him, but he could get us a 1st round pick and a good prospect. Filling arguably our 2 most important needs

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 4:32 p.m.

Thread: Rumours

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>papishark</b></div><div>By far it would have, but Doug did what he did now I guess we see how it turns out.</div></div>

yep. still have Melker though so we'll see what he does

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 4:30 p.m.

Thread: Rumours

funny how Dillon got traded right after this post. I think this would have been a better trade.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 4:28 p.m.

Thread: Updated Sharks

I know Middleton will play, but why don't we take a chance on someone like Roy or DeSimone. we know Middleton is a reliable 7th defenseman, but, not much more. DeSimone and Roy have pretty solid potential.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 4:26 p.m.

Thread: San Jose and Minnesota

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>That's a great point, but you're leaving out the minor detail that over that time period Labanc has 505 minutes of PP TOI while Heinen has 383 minutes of PP TOI. I'd also point out that it shows Labanc is more dependent on PP scoring than Heinen is. In fact over this time frame 35% of Labanc scoring has come via PP to 24% for Heinen.

I'll give you the playoff scoring though, the numbers would indicate he's been better there...however you've still yet to prove that he's "definitely better" lol.</div></div>

ok, i refrain. I think he's "better"

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 2:48 p.m.

Thread: San Jose and Minnesota

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>When say "scoring" I'm assuming you're talking about goals (since we've already talked about overall points). Now sure I'll give you that, he scores more...just how much more. Again using two full seasons plus this season here are the G/GP over 82 game numbers. You ready?

Labanc - 16G per 82
Heinen - 13G per 82

So yes he does score more goals per 82, he averages a whopping 3 more goals per 82 since the 2017-2018 season. What else do you want to explore because you're just making my point with each post you have.</div></div>

and assists on the pp. Heinen has had 19 powerplay assists in the 2 full seasons and this season combined, while Labanc has had 35. Labanc's production average is about a point every 26 minutes while Heinen's is about 30. Also, in the last 2 playoffs Labanc has averaged .46 points a game while Heinen is only at .27

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 2:00 p.m.

Thread: San Jose and Minnesota

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>and more games. Again I pointed out their P/GP and said the difference over 82 games is equal to 7 points. That's honestly not a huge difference lol. I also pointed out that Heinen has thrown more hits, blocked more shots and has a better Tk/Gv ratio. When you take everything into consideration, its tough to say that Labanc is definitely better. Now you're more than welcome to think otherwise, but you've presented nothing to support your argument.</div></div>

Labanc is still scoring more than Heinen when Labanc is on a way worse team.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 12:36 p.m.

Thread: Patiently reacting to the market

simple trade, San Jose likely accepts

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 10:05 a.m.

Thread: San Jose and Minnesota

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>Right two full seasons and the current season, which is what I showed. You decided to start with Labanc's best season (last year) where his number were well above his career average. 2+ the current season gives a more accurate look than 1 + the current season.</div></div>

ok but even then Labanc has more points and more goals

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 10:02 a.m.

Thread: Scouts from nine teams on hand for sharks game in SJ

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Baphomet</b></div><div>I think for myself. I’m happy for you.</div></div>

thanks for your approval :)

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 17, 2020 at 11:01 p.m.

Thread: Scouts from nine teams on hand for sharks game in SJ

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Baphomet</b></div><div>Great. I like to form my own opinions rather than just doing what I’m told.</div></div>

nice. i like to base my opinion on what professionals who are paid to evaluate players think.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 17, 2020 at 10:49 p.m.

Thread: Scouts from nine teams on hand for sharks game in SJ

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Baphomet</b></div><div>That’s your opinion.</div></div>

and the opinion of many sharks news articles

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 17, 2020 at 10:48 p.m.

Thread: San Jose and Minnesota

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>Lol so your going to start measuring when Labanc has his best season, ya that's not cherry pick numbers.</div></div>

what are you talking about, the most recent seasons are the most relevant

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 17, 2020 at 5:56 p.m.

Thread: Major Carolina Deal - set for a good offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>NYI is trying to move cap, I woulda chose Komarov but he’s got a NTC, and Colorado is ambitious lol, but I think if Thornton and marleau are moved the sharks are going to get something idk what tho</div></div>

I would think Marleau and Thornton would fetch a 3rd, maybe a 2nd

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 17, 2020 at 5:46 p.m.

Thread: Major Carolina Deal - set for a good offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>Assuming that’s about Bean, also assuming if it wasn’t Gauthier and replaced with someone else that wouldn’t change eh?</div></div>

don't think NYI or Colorado accepts, Carolina maybe but probably not

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 17, 2020 at 5:27 p.m.

Thread: San Jose and Minnesota

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div><strong>Since 2017-2018</strong>
KL - 217 GP / 0.58 pgp
DH - 207 GP / 0.49 pgp

^The difference in their P/GP over 82 games is equal to 7 points. Few other numbers from that time frame:

<strong>Hits</strong>
KL: 133
DH: 130

<strong>Block Shots</strong>
KL: 57
DH: 101

<strong>TK/GV Ratio</strong>
KL: -26
DH: +16

Sorry, but I have a hard time with "Labanc is definitely better" statement.</div></div>

sure, but over the 2018-2019 season and this season, Labanc has had 86 points while Heinen has had only 66

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 17, 2020 at 3:37 p.m.

Thread: The Market is Set

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gofnut999</b></div><div>Lol, assists are arbitrary. My 53 year old ass could slap on skates for the first time in 25 years, skate around for 15 mins a game and pick up 20 assists by dumb luck alone. And i was a goalie. 2/3 of assists are not earned it’s just the way the scoring rule works. It just means you were one of the last 2 people to touch the puck before it went in.</div></div>

ok, but if he's 7th all time for assists, ahead of people like Yzerman and Howe he must be doing something right

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 17, 2020 at 3:22 p.m.

Thread: The Market is Set

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gofnut999</b></div><div>Not really. He’s playing 15 mins a game, has 2 goals, does not hit anyone, does not kill penalties, under 50% faceoff, slow. Where is the value? Experience and leadership. I’d rather have production. It’s just not there anymore.</div></div>

ya, but his point value is in assists

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 17, 2020 at 3:13 p.m.

Thread: The Market is Set

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gofnut999</b></div><div>Anything is possible. Plekanec got 2 2nds a couple of years ago and like Joe had nothing left to offer. No way in hell I would ever do it. No value in it. Just pissing away assets. But GMs get desperate and experience is valued. But experience without production is not worth much to me.</div></div>

Thornton has value, would be better than Colorado's 3rd line center at the moment given Kadri's injury

Obviously Karlsson isn't great at scoring and getting points, but he would be good for Colorado's pk

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