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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 25, 2021 at 3:53 p.m.
Thread: What Could Have Been SCARY TEAM STILL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jco5ta5</b></div><div>That defense is still bad. Though I imagine between mitchell, joker, and boker one of them plays LD. You can't play Carlson and sit Mitchell. I never understood why Teuvo went with Bickell. Why didn't they trade a prospect or a pick or simply buy Bickell out? I also never understood the MTL trades with Danault. The team was the #1 team in the Western Conference and everything was clicking. We didn't need Weiss and Fleischmann.</div></div>

On the Bickell trade and why they included Tuevo is because he basically was it as far as a prospect/player at the time. The Hawks had already set a precedent that they would trade cusp players like Tuevo when they dealt away Sharp with Johns, Campbell with Hayes. Its just an awful situation anyway you look at it. Imagine if Bickell never gets sick and still plays at that dominant power forward level that got him paid and you have Tuevo and Panarin joining the team! Monster team that has the ability to go for that 4th Cup of the Decade.

So unfortunate that illness hit Bicks and to a lesser extent the future of the Hawks as it has currently been written.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 25, 2021 at 3:03 p.m.
Thread: What Could Have Been SCARY TEAM STILL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlickWilly</b></div><div>I think the Shaw trade is completely unrelated, it was a matter of shedding cap space, and it didn't necessarily have to be with the Habs. The thing about Debrincat is I suspect it was less about drafting for need and more about picking up the best player left on their board. I would assume at that point Panarin still figured into long term plans, and with Teuvo and Schmaltz both figuring to be centers, they would have still had need for a true winger</div></div>

My perspective goes back to the Danualt deal and that you would not have even drafted Schmaltz with that pick in 2014, if you felt Danault was the #3 if not #2 center at the time I feel that pick would have been for D help rather than Schmaltz.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 25, 2021 at 12:53 p.m.
Thread: What Could Have Been SCARY TEAM STILL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>You guys are missing the fact that Danault was TERRIBLE for the Hawks and TERRIBLE for their AHL affiliate the Ice Hogs too. I'm dead serious. Credit goes to Danault 1,000%. He got the ice time he needed (not deserved) and made FULL use of it. He's a really good player today. The trade is terrible for Bowman because FIVE years happened since the trade. Bowman was going for the cup. I'm not upset at going for another cup.

Also, every single GM in the game can have this happen to them. Point out ONLY the mistakes and say... Look what could have been??? Oh Wow! You can't look at only the bad without the good.</div></div>

100% agree at the time looked like the right move. I support Bowman and I think he gets way too much negative attention and not enough credit for being a big part of 3 Cups in less than a decade. I am not s spoiled Hawk fan that demands miracle transactions to take place in a cap era so we can win the Cup every year. The suffering occurring now is like paying the bill for an awesome dinner out with friends. It sucks to spend the cash but it was worth the experience 100% of the time!
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 25, 2021 at 12:31 p.m.
Thread: What Could Have Been SCARY TEAM STILL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlickWilly</b></div><div>I think Debrincat stays over Kubalik tbh. We drafted him while we still had Panarin so that shouldnt be as big of an effect, and then they never trade for Kubalik instead</div></div>

It's difficult to theorize because if the Hawks never make the orginal bad deal with the Habs sending Danault out the door would the repeat business have been there? I think that even if that deal is made when you go into that draft with Panarin and Tuevo on your roster and part of your long term plans are you drafting another undersized goal scoring wing with no ability to play on the PK? I don't think we have him in our system in any way if we kept Panarin and Tuevo. It would have been more D depth I think.