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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 15, 2021 at 6:27 p.m.
Thread: Defense master plan Who accepts and who doesnt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vegasloveforthebills</b></div><div>Vegas absolutely declines.

Why would they pay Edler 500 K more for one season when they have McNabb for two. And both will be playing 1LD with Petro.

Then trade the guy who they have playing 1C and a first round pick for a winger that will be on their second if not third line.

And they have that 1C under a cheap deal for three more years

I know people don’t get him playing there, but he does fit with it two wingers he has in stone and Pacioretty</div></div>

Vegas declines easily and I'm happy with his play but Stephenson is in no way a 1C. It's even kind of disingenuous to say he plays that role for us, he doesn't in the sense everyone thinks about it.

He is in the position that many good third liners have found themselves in over the years where they are the third forward (usually its a winger, not a center) thrown in with two tremendous linemates that help them look like they are a top six forward.

Stone drives that line offensively and defensively like a 1C everyone thinks of would and Pacioretty is an elite creative and goal scoring player who also carries a lot of the weight. Of course Stephenson fits with Pacioretty and Stone, any center who is even decent will look great with those two playing how they have been.

It also doesn't hurt that they need Glass to help stabilize the line with Roy and Tuch to give us three dangerous lines, and he is.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 15, 2021 at 1:23 a.m.
Thread: Cheviarelli fires PoMo and Helly goes to the Berdin School of Stickhandling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jgimp69</b></div><div>Cap dump or not, Vegas needs to move some and cap space is the new asset</div></div>

Vegas won't give Winnipeg things to take their best player then trade him for more things.

Vegas doesn't desperately need to clear space, even if they wanted to clear some they aren't going to give away so much when there would be other options to move some cap.

Vegas certainly doesn't need 7 million in cap space this season and doesn't need Stastny. They would be giving up Korczak and a high 2nd and their best player currently all for 7 million cap space that they won't fully use.

Then they would have to go and trade more assets for a big name player to justify trading Fleury and probably not be all that improved at the end of it. The return is nowhere near cost effective.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 13, 2021 at 6:24 p.m.
Thread: Opening lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>leafs101</b></div><div>is it just me that thinks this team is a bit overrated? Like you have a 1b in Karlsson then a bunch of 3rd and 4th line centres, plus the D isn't all that it is cracked up to be after Theo and Petro. Certainly a contender but not top 3 like some think imo.</div></div>

Martinez has been nothing but solid in top four and McNabb has played like a good top four three years now. Whitecloud is super exciting how well he took to the league in his first year and I'm very confident in him. Beyond that, Holden is a good 6/7 and Hague and Coghlan are possibilities to make the jump this season. The defense should be fine.

The center issue is the issue. No team is good at everything and it's definitely the weak area of the team.

If Glass can step into a top six center role this season, however, then they are fine. This season really comes down to Glass and his progress, in my opinion.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 13, 2020 at 3:27 a.m.
Thread: One Way to Move Neal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RickFromRedDeer</b></div><div>Well that is just preposterous. MacKinnon would likely not be satisfied with a 3C role with the Oil, although I suppose this would check the box for our need for a centre that can drive a line at even strength. 
I am not that clever, this was Bob Stauffer’s (Edmonton color guy, big-time-homer) idea. He was on the radio suggesting it. I am not sure why he thinks Vegas retains here, but if the deal was straight up; and Edmonton thinks Fleury has anything left in the tank, this could work. I think it might me a bit harder to move $ 7 million goalie that appears to be declining this year than you might think.</div></div>

They would just retain 30% and be done with it. Fleury at 4.9 is an asset to other teams. He's had a solid playoffs every time he's been called on and still looks good, Vegas management just apparently chose the younger guy.

No way they take an extra year of Neal, it messes up their entire structure for when Glass, Hague, Dugan, Elvenes, Roy and Whitecloud would be due raises. Not all will get them but a few will.

Vegas refused to sign Neal two years ago for more than 4x4, they especially don't do an enormous favor to a division foe and give them a useful player for a useless one signed a year longer.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 13, 2020 at 3:18 a.m.
Thread: One Way to Move Neal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MMXD</b></div><div>They really can’t hold onto 50% for the next two years. That’s 3.5 in dead cap that they’ll need for contracts and a backup goalie. Vegas would explore moving jt all or about 1M RET</div></div>

They won't need to retain half but they could. They have no one big to sign apart from Lehner and that money would be there. They might need a defenseman but unless they go after Pietrangelo there's no one they need to be spending the big money on. They have some forwards they will probably look at trading as well for more space.

Glass, Dugan, Elvenes all need to get their shots next two seasons. Hague and Coghlan will get their chances on defense. Stastny is off the books next season and Tatar retention. Krebs may be ready at that point.

Neal is a non-starter they don't take that contract at all.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 23, 2020 at 1:07 p.m.
Thread: Golden Knights
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>There's no way Robin Lehner stays in Vegas, He's looking for a major payday. Wouldn't surprise me in the neighborhood of 6 x 7 could definitely see Detroit offering him that much. Not saying he'd go there but we can definitely pay him the most with close to $40 million in cap space and needing to sign about 12 more players.</div></div>

He's already said he is looking for stability rather than the highest payday. If Vegas offers him a long term deal of 5-6 years at a competitive 6 million price point he could definitely stay. He would have stayed in Chicago for that before they traded him.

Also, there are quite a few teams who have had the opportunity to sign him and passed already, I wouldn't assume the market for him is this huge blockbuster you think it is.