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Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 27, 2018 at 1:10 a.m.
Thread: moving Nylander
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>This is gonna be his 4th season. Next year will be the beginning of a lockout, which would be his 5th season.
My guess is the RFA years are dropped after 5 seasons in the new CBA. Nylander probably isn't signing long term in toronto. Which means, next year, they will have lost all leverage. Especially if the following years season is cut in half due to a strike. Right now is probably the most trade value they will ever get out of him.</div></div>

Their GM already stated that they are looking to lock up Nylander long term. They are going to need him anyways. Matthews right now does not have an elite winger to play with and Tyler Ennis on his line does not cut it. Ennis is a bottom 6 winger while Nylander is a top line winger with an elite skill set. He isint going anywhere.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 22, 2018 at 5:46 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 20, 2018 at 3:49 p.m.
Thread: Blockbuster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Claesson4Norris</b></div><div>Top 1D &gt; Top 8 C. Also I know everyone has differing opinions, but I think a number one D is way more important than a number 1 centre, especially a right shot D. There are just so many more top centres in the league than there are Top Dmen.</div></div>

That may be true that their are many more top centers then dmen around the league but the reality is the teams that have recently won championships over the past several years were absolutely stacked at center and the wings. Pittsburgh, Washington, and even LA who were stacked at Center with Kopitar, Jeff Carter, and Mike Richards all won with deep center cores. Then you have teams like Carolina, St.Louis, Calgary, and Minnesota who all have great D cores and have either missed or did not make the post-season over the last several years. I actually think defense is the least important position now because the game has changed. Just stacking the blue line alone does not win championships since defense is a 5 man team game. Also need an elite level goaltender to win as well.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 19, 2018 at 6:45 p.m.
Thread: Faulk trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>First issue I raise is Ozhiganov and Lindholm rn don't look like they will make the maple leafs to start. Right now Ennis is currently the 4C according to twitter (Which is always a reliable source) The team will be better, but Freddy got Toronto to game 7 in that series, he played some of the best hockey you can play as a goaltender. Zaitzev had a good rookie year and then had a real big slump last year, I do think he will be better but not enough to chance the outcome of that series if it comes up again. Defence is done 1st and foremost by the 2 d men on the ice at any time. They have to be able to slow down the skaters to allow the forwards back and thats where Toronto lack. They need someone who can do that and not just relay on the pure speed of skaters to get them there.</div></div>

Nope. Ennis is playing RW on the 1st line with Matthews and Marleau. Which is not really a great 1st line since he is taking Nylanders spot. The battle for 4th line C is between Gauthier and Lindholm. I think Lindholm gets it tbh. The best way for the Leafs to play defense is to spend most of the time in the O zone and wear the opposing team down. Yesterday was only a pre-season game but Tavares looked like not only the best offensive player but also one of the best defensive players against Ottawa last night breaking up plays in the neutral zone. Thats the impact a franchise C has on a club.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 19, 2018 at 6:04 p.m.
Thread: Faulk trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Thats not enough to make a whole team fall. Defence is often a 2 man unit on odd man rushes, 3-on-2s 2-on-1's etc. The center depth with Plekanence Kadri Matthews and Bozak and they get stomped in the first 4 games, and only make it to 7 because the bruins fell asleep and Rask became a sieve. As for the forwards, the only player to have been relatively good in both ends last season for Toronto was Patrick Marleau. Thats a whole team faliure. As for the blue line, Gardiner crapped the bed in game 7, thats well documented. But where was Zaitzev, Hainsey Carrick? TOR need extra RD and that is an issue that will sink or swim this team. I just said it and I'll say it again, defence wins championships. Toronto don't have one. They need to be better defensively or get someone who can fill that stop gap before they can become a real contender.</div></div>

lol dude defense is not a 2 man unit. what are you smoking? one player can only take one player therefore all 5 players on the ice need to take their own man. Their's no way 2 dmen alone can stop an attack of 3 forwards and a dman joining the rush in the attacking zone. The forwards for sure need to back check and play defense especially if a dman pinches and gets caught. As for the Boston series Toronto got owned simply because almost their whole team did not show up. forwards included. Matthews and Nylander combining for 2 goals the whole series doesen't cut it. They had a billion chances to score and they couldn't even hit the net. Their only good players were Marleau, Marner, Kapanen, Dermott, and Johnsson. That's only five players that showed up to play. They failed to capitalize on too many offensive chance by missing the net too much, Kadri got suspended and was out for most of the series so they had no C depth. Defense and goal-tending were not good either but not all the blame can be pinned on the D alone. The whole team was awful. I do however think they can bounce back. I fully expect Matthews, Nylander, along with Rielly, Zaitsev (bounce back year), and Gardiner to bounce back because they were solid all regular season long. They added Tavares who is great defensively and offensively, Par Lindholm looks like a good defensive center that can kill penalties, and Ozhiganov looks like a good dman that can move the puck quickly and also kill penalties. They got better defensively as a team. Now a handful of their players need to bounce back and take it as a learning experience. Their still a young team so its expected that they have some ups and downs during the course of the season.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 19, 2018 at 5:13 p.m.
Thread: Faulk trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Statistically Gardiner was an average 2nd pairing guy in one end and a HoFer in the other, As for the blue line, you have a year older Ron Hainsey, the ghost of Nikita Zaitzev, Connor Carrick and turnstile Jake Gardiner. Faulk is one of the better offensive D men in his own zone, and would really bulster TOR I think a trade like this works out for both teams. As for forwards not being able to defend, right because Kapanen Johhnson Kadri Matthews Marner Tavares Hyman are all gonna be in their own end! You can't blame a bad year for one guy a bad player and 2 bad forwards for allowing more shots against then 25 other teams. There needs to be some additions to that blue line, you cannot score your way to a cup. Defence wins championships, and this defence just isn't winning anything rn</div></div>


Yea you can actually. Their forwards were bad defensively last year and team defense is a five man unit. Their center depth was abysmal in the playoffs. Tomas Plekanec playing 2nd line center for most of the playoffs is a joke. You can't actually tell me that is good. Centers are so heavily relied on to play both defense and offense and when you got Bozak + Moore playing 3 and 4C your asking to get crushed in the playoffs. Now they have 3 or even 4 centers that can all play a solid two-way game with a healthy Matthews, Tavares, and hopefully a smarter Kadri. Also, why do they want to play in their own zone? the best way to play defense is to spend more time in the O zone and less time in their own zone. They have enough puck moving dman and fire power up front to get out of their own zone quickly and hammer teams in their own zone where as last year they did not have enough depth. Ron Hainsey is still a problem playing on the top D pairing but their was no way they were going anywhere last year in the playoffs with that awful center depth and another defensive liability in JVR either.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 16, 2018 at 10:05 p.m.
Thread: Nylander Trade; Anaheim
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tatatavares</b></div><div>The teams that will have both a need and space for Nylander, will be teams that are losing a top scoring winger

I'd look to Columbus because Panarin is going UFA at age 27, because he signed a lower $6 million deal. Basically Panarin is Nylander in 6 years

Otherwise you're just selling for picks/prospects that can't help the D for years, and what the Leafs need is a D-core that can catch up and be ready to play in the NHL yesterday. The Leafs were built backwards, and then they procrastinated on the hardest pieces.

If you look a few years out for D that may be hitting UFA and whose teams are rebuilding:
Hjalmarsson, ARI, at age 32 ufa 2019
Hamilton, CAR, at age 28 ufa 2021
Gudbranson, VAN, at age 29 ufa 2021

Basically there's no chance at stealing a D in UFA. Procrastination only hurts in this case, there is no getting lucky.

If you're not meeting the other team's existing need, you'll really need to blow their socks off with Nylander+</div></div>

Its prob not even worth trading Nylander to begin with unless its for a real elite level D. Otherwise trading him would be a big mistake leaving a big hole on RW and giving Matthews no elite level RW to play with. Both Tavares and Matthews need an elite winger to play with if they want to have the big double barrel attack and that is going to be Nylander and Marner on lines 1 and 2. Also, their D core is pretty good already and is just going to get better with all the great D prospects they drafted.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 13, 2018 at 11:49 p.m.
Thread: Maple Leafs sign Nylander
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DomCholette</b></div><div>In any case... Toronto will need to trade someone soon.. him or Marner... or Matthews (I doubt)
Too many BIG $$$ at forward vs Defense!
I would trade Nylander for a Great yound D (less expensive but as valuable)
Theodore, one on one against Pesce... or a BIG TRADE getting PK Subban for Nylander!!!
Having next year:
Morgan- Subban
Dermott- Zaitsev</div></div>

Trade Nylander and their only elite right winger is Mitch Marner. Not good enough and they would lack depth at RW if they did that. No point in trying to patch holes to create holes elsewhere on the roster plus Nashville would never trade Subban for Nylander. Draft and develop. They have tons of solid D prospects coming over the next few years. You need unbelievable depth at Center and the Wings to win a Championship especially when factoring in potential injuries. Matthews and Tavares both need an elite level winger for an effective double barrel attack.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 18, 2018 at 9:40 p.m.
Thread: I f*cken hate Toronto, but they are going to win the stanley cup in 2019...
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Goldendelicious</b></div><div>If Andersen doesn't play out of mind last year, its a different story. FWIW, they were bottom 4 in shots against and thats more statically relevant as it highlights how good Andersen was. Bunch of boys running lost in their own zone. Defensive zone play is under the microscope far more in the playoffs and last year's series against Boston highlights what their D-core truly is.</div></div>

I like how everyone talks about how bad the defense was against Boston. The offense was also bad too. Nylander and Matthews combining for 2 goals the entire series is another big reason why they didn't win. Their big guys didnt show up. The entire team sucked and Andersen was not good in game 7 either. I would obviously expect them to bounce back and have a much better run next year but the whole team is to blame against Boston other then maybe Marleau, Marner, Dermott, and Kapanen. Those guys actually showed up. Matthews and Nylander both sucked.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 2, 2018 at 3:48 a.m.
Thread: Keep Them All!
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>I_Know_Nothing_About_Hockey_Or_Any_Sport2</b></div><div>Matt Martin is clearly a cap dump, and one which the Islanders have no reason to accept. Considering the Leafs' situation, there is no reason the Islanders, especially with an improved management staff, would not demand assets. If making cap dumps were that easy, the Lightning would dump Killorn and Callahan and sign Karlsson or something. An offense like that can carry you into the playoffs, but in a conference with teams like the Lightning, Penguins, and Capitals (though the latter two are in decline due to an aging core), they need people who can shut down a high-scoring offense. Anderson isn't getting any younger, and can't carry them for 60+ regular games and 20+ playoff games, and Kaskisuo is not the type of guy you can rely on without help from defensemen. They may spend most of the game in the offensive zone, but no team can keep the puck out of their zone for an entire game. This offense is downright scary, but scoring eight goals per game won't matter if the other team can score nine, and players like Stamkos, Kucherov, Point, Gourde, etc. will easily penetrate that defense.

If you look at recent Cup winners, all of them had players who could play defense for a run like that. With the Lightning having Hedman, McDonagh, and Sergachev locked up (and Foote coming up) and an offense close to competing with this one, and a Vezina-quality goalie, the Jets having a similarly good offense, one of the best defensive cores in the League, and another Vezina-quality goalie, and the Predators having a somewhat strong (though not anywhere near this level) of offense and some of the best defense and goaltending in the League, unless the Leafs' defense can really step it up beyond the play they've already shown (and if they can, that means they earn more money, forcing the Leafs to sacrifice something), they can't compete with teams like that for a Cup. And obviously, that kind of team has a narrow window....</div></div>

Yea but Stamkos, Point, and Gourde are all strong two way players and that was something the Leafs were missing last season. JVR, Bozak, and Polak are the definition of One-Way players. All are very weak on the backcheck and abysmal defensively. Still need a top 4 dman and better two way forwards. They managed to add defensive forwards Adam Cracknall, Par Lindholm, and Josh Jooris but could use a little more. I liked how the Marlies had so many good two-way players on their team this year giving them solid overall team D and Offense. Leafs are prob looking to do the same. Tavares is a great addition though. Solid all round player.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 18, 2018 at 7:47 p.m.
Thread: Could the Leafs get JT without losing the big 3
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Codyymd16</b></div><div>all i can look at is how bad that defensive core is, like Liljegren is gone once his contracts up, unless you can pull 3-5mill (assuming he gets good) out of nowhere, i dont see you saving that much money from contracts in the future aside from Marleau, but even then im sure youd want to replace him with someone else worth similar right? why not John Carlsson instead, fixing an issue on your lineup</div></div>

Defense core isint as bad as everyone is making out to be and Tavares will make a bigger impact on the team then Carlsson ever will. Could def use a solid RHD but still got two 40+ point dman in Rielly &amp; Gardiner plus Liljegren is coming soon and Dermott is a strong two-way defender. Zaitsev is looking for a bounce back year, Ozhiganov will get a look, and Calle Rosen looked like a very strong mobile puck moving dman during the Marlies Calder Cup run. Add some better defensive forwards and Leafs are in good shape. Both Pittsburgh and Tampa Bay have alot more offensive fire power then Toronto right now so theirs still work to do up front. Also Id rather see Tavares Vs Malkin/Point in the playoffs then Kadri vs Malkin/Point.