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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 10, 2020 at 1:31 p.m.
Thread: Leafs playoff roster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trevorchef</b></div><div>I agree that Rielly and Barrie paired together is not ideal from a defensive zone perspective. They are not good without the puck as a duo. Dermott is not a top pairing guy at this point. I doubt he ever will be.

Until the Leafs actually acquire a legit top pairing RD to play with Rielly expect the same mediocre results defensively from this team.

Marincin is relatively sound defensively but handles the puck like a live hand grenade. Ceci is a capable bottom paring guy but simply makes too much money to justify his presence there as you cited.

An optimal TML D Core would look something like this IMO...

Rielly / Legit Top Pairing RHD
Muzzin / Barrie
Dermott / Holl

With Sandin and Liljegren waiting in the shadows of the AHL to jump in when needed.

Acquiring that legit top pairing RHD has been the bane of this teams existence for some time now. Here's hoping they can do that before the February trade deadline at the expense of some offensive excess and perhaps some draft or and/or prospect capital.

Best trade chips at present are... Johnsson, Ceci, Bracco, and Timashov. Does a combination of those players and picks and prospects return that much coveted player? The jury is still out in that regard.</div></div>

Yea but as long as the team as a five man unit including the forwards continue to make defensive mistakes then they will continue to have the same results. Tavares needs to step up. Poor defensive mistakes against winnipeg costing a short handed goal against. He has not been very good so far this season and Id expect JT to play a solid two-way game. Spezza and Kapanen are also guilty of turning the puck over too much. Does not help when they got Marincin and Ceci playing D either.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 5, 2019 at 3:09 p.m.
Thread: How I see it shaping up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HabsForEver</b></div><div>You aren't getting Marner that cheap. He will be 10.5-11m over 8 years.</div></div>

Not sure you pay Marner that much then because in terms of skill level Marner is still in the same class as Nylander and Nylander could still end up being the better player in the long run. If it wasen't for the contract dispute Nylander would prob be putting up similar numbers to Marner this year. Both are great wingers but Nylander def has the edge in raw skill including puck handling skills, smooth skating ability, and wrist shot. Marner gets the edge in playmaking ability and defensive play but even still 10.5-11 mill seems too high for him and his predictability has actually hurt the Leafs Powerplay this season.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 14, 2019 at 2:46 p.m.
Thread: Trade for Defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>A. you only need 3 lines come the playoffs. 4th lines are only there for blow outs. Your top two should be on the ice 20+ and your 3rd 15+. 4th line is some PK guys and checkers to play defense.

I also think you over estimate TB. Hell when was the last time they won a cup. Even this year I think they are gonna have a hard time getting to the finals.
It's much harder to win games in the playoffs with 5'8 and 5'9 wingers than it is the regular season. Which is something TB has yet to figure out.</div></div>

Lol come on man they were one win from going to the finals last year. They took Washington to 7 games and went to the finals in 2015. Bolts got solid two-way players throughout their whole lineup. A great bottom six that defends well, plays PK mins, and even generate offense. They can do it all. Those problems are so minor anyways. Johnson is really their only small winger and even still size is not an issue for Tampa at all.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 2, 2018 at 8:29 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2019-20 Trading Nylander for a right defense whatever non-roster assets
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gauss</b></div><div>The problem in keeping Nylander too much money is spent on the forwards and the cap issues are just going to continue with a weaker defense. See my previous teams. I agree Liljegren will be very good but will he be ready next year. He will be part of the future for sure.</div></div>

Yea the Leafs have more money invested in forwards but so what? If they are good players they should keep them to create bigger matchup problems for other teams. They are going to have to pay Liljegren and Sandin bigger dollars down the road at some point too so its good to have them on ELC now. Faulk's biggest asset is quarterbacking the PP and providing more offense from the blueline which they have Rielly and Gardiner for. As far as Faulks defensive play goes, he is nothing special. Nylander would benefit team defense more with the underrated two-way game he plays. High success rate of controlled zone entries and more puck possession + O zone time. On top of that Nylander is younger then Faulk and has 80+ point potential. Don't see how Leafs would benefit from this kind of deal especially when Morgan and Jake already do a solid job of quarterbacking the 1st and 2nd PP units plus having Liljegren who will be ready for the big club soon.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 2, 2018 at 2:54 a.m.
Thread: Cap left after Nylander the d sucks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>draft_em_sign_em_trade_em</b></div><div>I still say Kadri is a good trade option for cap relief, his contract is good for a team in need of a 2nd line C but his contract is bad as a 3rd line C. Marleau can play C if needed and the Leafs have wingers to move up. Of that will get you under the Cap but moving Kadri for picks and or a prospect doesn't allow enough money saved to fix the D</div></div>

Why? Kadri is one the best 3rd line Centers in the league that plays a solid defensive game. He can play as a shutdown center and chip in offensively too. They should def keep him. His contract is a steal for the player he is and center depth is so important in the playoffs. Kadri as a two-way 50-60 point 3rd line C is absolutley solid.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 16, 2018 at 11:59 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 29, 2018 at 10:23 p.m.
Thread: moving Nylander
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>but do you have to get a top D pairing guy. I mean if you land a young 2D player and gave 7 mil in cap space which can land another 2D player, you have solved a huge hole.
Wingers are easier to replace than Dmen. On top of it, you can make wingers look good playing them next to players like JT and Matthews. I think it's easier to find a winger than it is to find a Dman. Bringing in 2 quality Dmen for 1 winger who maybe befitting from playing on someones wing instead of paying him 7 mil might be the right path here.</div></div>

They would need a top pairing D or it would not be worth it since Nylander is an exceptional talent and replacing him with someone his caliber would be difficult. They also already got D prospects in their system that are 2nd pairing or better potential so they could just wait on them. Its not like they have to win it all this year. They got a good 6-7 year window and by that time they will have even more on their blue line. Also, every cup contending club has really good wingers to play with their centers. Matthews and Tavares want to play with good players too, not carry a line on their own. I don't see the point in trading one elite player for 2 ok players just because they play on the back end. That wont make them any better overall. It's quantity over quality. Your basically patching a small leak short term to create a bigger leak elsewhere. Their blueline is already good and will get even better over the next few years. They got two 50 point dman. Not alot of teams have that so waiting on D prospects would be a much better idea then simply trading Nylander and then giving up more assets to try and replace him down the road.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 29, 2018 at 1:14 a.m.
Thread: moving Nylander
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>I don't think Nylander makes that much of a difference. Furthermore, it's much easier to find a winger than blue line help. When it comes to the playoffs you can have a defense man play 30 minutes a night if they are really good. Nylander will be lucky he see's 20.

The real problem isn't this year. It's next year when those contracts hit and they watch 1/2 their blueline leave.</div></div>

Yea but no one is going to trade an elite level dman for Nylander, so in that case he is not worth trading. Mine as well keep him. His skill set is through the roof anyways. Insane stick handling ability combined with smooth skating and a good wrist shot. He has great chemistry with Matthews already too so why break that up? They need as many good players as possible in their system. Trading him away just for the the hell of it is not the way to go plus they got some promising D prospects that will be Leafs soon and they will take over for some of their departing D.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 28, 2018 at 12:25 p.m.
Thread: moving Nylander
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>because you won't have any defensemen with the skill to move the puck out of your own zone. Thats why. You will be rolling with guys on 2 million salaries. Good luck with that. It's barely above league minimum.
You don't simply win with forwards. You need a complete team. You tie up 1/2 your cap space in like 5 forwards. Then try to "build" the rest of the team, it doesn't work.</div></div>

They have plenty of guys on the back end that can skate and move the puck quickly out of their zone. Their only big problem on the blueline is Hainsey getting too many minutes and playing on the top pair. Hainsey does not skate very well, move the puck quick enough, and also hes old. He will be replaced next year with one of their top D prospects. Anyways, they still need to be stacked at Center and the Wings if they want to contend. Especially center. Centers are heavily relied upon to play both defense and offense and now they have 3, maybe 4 solid two-way centers which they did not have in the playoffs last season. Without Nylander though their depth is too weak on RW and their already thin on LW. They would not even have enough up front to compete with the better teams like Tampa, Pittsburgh, or Washington. They got great centers but also need good wingers to support Matthews, Tavares, and Kadri. Right now 3rd line is weak. Kadri is basically carrying that line. Ennis is also not a top 6 winger. If Nylander is in the lineup they would actually have 2 elite wingers playing on the top 2 lines and Ennis could be a great option in the bottom 6. They got alot more problems then just their blue line. Without Nylander they are too weak on the wings.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 27, 2018 at 11:42 p.m.
Thread: moving Nylander
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>Pastrnak is a horrible example to go by.
Go look at his stats. He played 3 years before signing that contract and only the year before he signed was actually impressive.
They were at a point in deciding if he was a 1 hit wonder or what. Nylander has been solid for 2 straight years, and the 3rd aka his rookie year he was playing well as well although he didn't play many games.
It's really not a fair comparison or situation. Pastrnak could have turned around and flopped and his contract reflected that. He had less ground to negotiate because there was less of a track record. On top of it the cap has gone up, so that accounts for some increase in contract.

He's worth 7 mil. No doubt his agent is saying that. Also the few hundred thousand you think you are saving at 6.5 or whatever, isn't going to solve the salary cap issue. It's still a really bad spot to be in. There are a lot of holes, and not much cap space. You tie it all up in a hand full of players. That means you won't have much talent anywhere else. Depth is what wins.</div></div>

Well lol if they lose Nylander they will def lose alot of depth to their lineup. Hes a big time piece to their team and having someone like Tyler Ennis on their top line is not going to cut it. Matthews needs an elite winger to play with if they want to be able to roll all four lines effectively. That's what happens when teams have good players. They become tighter against the salary cap. If they all the cap space in the world to work with then they prob would not have a very good team. Either that or they give out bad contracts. All good players want to get paid. I dont see how trading away a 22 year old elite winger that has not even scratched the surface as far as potential goes makes their team any better.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 27, 2018 at 1:50 p.m.
Thread: moving Nylander
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>Doesn't matter what the GM says. He isn't signed. They aren't close on the numbers. He wants paid. No way he's gonna sit there and not get paid after they handed JT a pile of cash, and are going to hand piles of cash to Matthews and Marner. He doesn't have to sign long term anything. He signs short term and then the CBA hits. He becomes a UFA sooner, and gets his money on the open market. Toronto can't tie their salary cap up in 4 players.
They got 40 mil in cap space next year. But Mathews and Marner are gonna take up what 20 of that. Matthews is atleast 11, Marner probably 8. Really depends what Panarin is gonna sign for will set his market value. That gives you 20 left roughly speaking. For 6 forwads ( one of which would be Nylander), 3 defensemen and a back up goalie. Even at league minimums they can't really afford it if they give one of those forwards aka Mylander 7-8 mil a year. That would leave 12-13 million left for 9 guys. Not to mention how bad the team will look with that many players being bottom of the barrel league minimum guys. There aren't enough solid rookies in the system to replace that. This is why they should trade him,.

This is why he's not signed yet. Toronto has no choice but to try to low ball him because they can't low ball Matthews and they would rather low ball Nylander than Marner. Who is probably looking at Draisaitl, type money.
Tornoto really is in a trade him situation. If not this year than next. Because he's worth 7-8 on the open market. Once the CBA lowers that age, it's all over. You will have basically 2 years of him including this year then he's out the door. Next year when everyone knows you are going to lose him, and everyone knows you are up against the cap, his value drops like a rock for a trade. This is their best chance to trade him. Period.</div></div>

They arn't low balling him. He's not even worth 7-8 mill. More like 6-6.5 mill comparable to Ehlers who makes 6 mill and David Pastrnak at 6.6. They are both just as good if not better then Nylander and make more. Im sure they will sort things out and come to a fair agreement.