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Created by: blacroix
Team: 2018-19 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 29, 2018
Published: Nov. 29, 2018
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Everyone keeps saying they'd rather give up Pietrangelo over Parayko (Which I understand.) So... Let's actually look at this. We want to pay around 6.5 for Nylander so Piet fits this, Bouwmeester contract falls off after the year or we just flip him somewhere.

Then we have Marleau's money fall off right when we need to sign Piet to a new deal which he can then get his 7-8 that he wants and still leave us with plenty of cash to pay everyone else... This seems mildly plausible assuming we use cheap stuff for our bottom 6 going forward...

Or not! I'm just looking at what every blues fan has been saying about Piet over Parayko.
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Bouwmeester, Jay
  2. Pietrangelo, Alex
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (STL)
Additional Details:
For the blues to afford Nylander because the first year cap schenannigans means it's sorta front loaded, they need cap-space so we take bouwmeester as a cap dump and they give us a second as payment for that.
STL
  1. Marincin, Martin
Additional Details:
Nylander who signs whatever 7x7 deal they want and all that jazz.

Put in Marincin as we want to make roster space.
2.
TOR
STL
  1. Bracco, Jeremy
Additional Details:
From the discussion below added bracco to this trade.
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$72,408,333$2,550,000$5,400,000$7,091,667

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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$787,500$787,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$650,000$650,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,050,000$4,050,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 6
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$675,000$675,000
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$5,400,000$5,400,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2

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Nov. 29, 2018 at 8:43 p.m.
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I would do this if you replaced Maracin who has almost no value with a young piece like bracco or sandin
Nov. 29, 2018 at 8:44 p.m.
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I think we'll have cap room once we dump half the team, so no need to pay to dump jbow. I'd still like a little extra coming back in a Petro/Nylander swap.
Nov. 29, 2018 at 8:53 p.m.
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Thing is you have to have the deal signed by Saturday at 5pm which means STL would have to blow up the whole team this week. Just doesn't work sadly. I'm not sure what else you want in the trade, maybe a 3rd from the leafs? I don't see them giving up a prospect or a roster player.
Nov. 29, 2018 at 8:54 p.m.
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Quoting: GoBlues75
I would do this if you replaced Maracin who has almost no value with a young piece like bracco or sandin


Marincin is in there because they need to dump a roster player. You aren't getting any young pieces from the leafs, Nylander is the only real player the leafs will put in. They maybe add a 3rd/4th pick. That's probably about it.
Nov. 29, 2018 at 9:00 p.m.
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Or instead of Marincin, give them someone who might have some value in Rosen and/or Leivo or Bracco.
Nov. 29, 2018 at 9:27 p.m.
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I don't like this trade strictly for the ages of the main pieces involved. Id rather go after a young up and coming RHD who will be in his prime for the foreseeable future. Pietrangelo will need to be re-upped in a year and a half and at that time he will be 30 and expensive. Id target a younger RHD player either early twenties or a high end prospect++ like Boqvist or any other prospect of his caliber.
Nov. 29, 2018 at 10:41 p.m.
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Be a better deal for the Leafs if Boumeester was left at of the trade. Rather have cap space for a real Dman.
Nov. 29, 2018 at 11:28 p.m.
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Quoting: blacroix
Marincin is in there because they need to dump a roster player. You aren't getting any young pieces from the leafs, Nylander is the only real player the leafs will put in. They maybe add a 3rd/4th pick. That's probably about it.


That sadly means you don't get a top defenseman. Nylander 20 goal scorer wanting more than Doughty and still sitting on the couch isn't worth that much. I'm sorry you guys overrate Nylander too much. It's ridiculous how much he is overrated by Leafs fans.
Nov. 30, 2018 at 3:34 a.m.
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Pietrangelo would be a great fit for the Leafs but il be very happy if Nylander signs a new contract by the deadline. Always enjoyed watching Nylander play anyways as he has such an incredible skill set. Who wouldn't want a guy that can put on the Patrick Kane mitts and stick handle through defenders? Gotta love how Willy skates using his great edges. Hope he signs for a reasonable price but If not, would love to see Pietrangelo in the blue & white but i highly doubt Blues even consider trading him.
Nov. 30, 2018 at 9:32 a.m.
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Quoting: shaf_daddy
Or instead of Marincin, give them someone who might have some value in Rosen and/or Leivo or Bracco.


I'd have to imagine that if the leafs were to entertain a Nylander-Pietrangelo based deal, including any of the guys noted above would not be a deal breaker by any means.

Bouwmeester and Marincin can both be left out of this deal...but I could see a Nylander + lesser Dman for Pietrangelo + lesser forward...with mid-draft picks on either side to balance things out.
Nov. 30, 2018 at 4:12 p.m.
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That sadly means you don't get a top defenseman. Nylander 20 goal scorer wanting more than Doughty and still sitting on the couch isn't worth that much. I'm sorry you guys overrate Nylander too much. It's ridiculous how much he is overrated by Leafs fans.


It's not that I'm overvaluing him, I should probably correct my statement in that I just don't see them offering up a sandin or a liljegren. Nylander has age on his side and has proven he can put up 60+ points and it would stand to reason that he's the younger player(22) who might be just better over time then Piet who is turning 29. Maybe bracco gets added to this deal to but I don't see them adding a D prospect.. But the rest is about as even as possible in my mind.
Nov. 30, 2018 at 11:21 p.m.
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It's not that I'm overvaluing him, I should probably correct my statement in that I just don't see them offering up a sandin or a liljegren. Nylander has age on his side and has proven he can put up 60+ points and it would stand to reason that he's the younger player(22) who might be just better over time then Piet who is turning 29. Maybe bracco gets added to this deal to but I don't see them adding a D prospect.. But the rest is about as even as possible in my mind.


Nylander hasn't proven 60 points he has proven 20 Goals the 40 Assists are just a OPed stat by Leafs players.
Dec. 1, 2018 at 6:34 p.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Nylander hasn't proven 60 points he has proven 20 Goals the 40 Assists are just a OPed stat by Leafs players.


20 + 40 = 60
Dec. 1, 2018 at 8:32 p.m.
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20 + 40 = 60


Yes the 40 Assists are boosted stats from the plethora of scorers they have on the team. Not a credible or reliable stat.
Dec. 1, 2018 at 10:06 p.m.
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Yes the 40 Assists are boosted stats from the plethora of scorers they have on the team. Not a credible or reliable stat.


Okay bud.
Dec. 1, 2018 at 10:12 p.m.
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Okay bud.


When the team is super stacked he automatically won't be as good on the Blues because well he won't have as much stat boosts as he is on the Leafs.
Dec. 2, 2018 at 12:15 a.m.
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
When the team is super stacked he automatically won't be as good on the Blues because well he won't have as much stat boosts as he is on the Leafs.


Okay Bud.
 
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