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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 4, 2022 at 3:19 p.m.

Thread: Second crack at this

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Adding Smith is not hard. Move out Brossoit and Martinez. Then you are done. No reason to make insane changes</div></div>

You don't have a complete set of 4 forward lines if you just do that. I know for a fact Cassidy likes to roll 4 lines. I made the change in net because I'm under the assumption Lehner may ask for a trade sooner rather than later. He might not now with Deboer gone, but I wouldn't be surprised if he still did. Not to mention his struggles last year when healthy anyways. the changes also give something that neither team or coach has had in a couple years and that's scoring depth. You're bashing your head into a brick wall if you don't make some changes. Add in the fact that every year Vegas has made a big change, despite going deep into the playoffs 3 out of 4 times previous to this year, IMO It doesn't make sense not to the one year you don't. I wish they had kept as much of the squad together after losing to Montreal and made the changes this year, but thats just me.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 4, 2022 at 2:37 p.m.

Thread: Second crack at this

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>Seeing his injury history, age, and that Vegas still has cap issues , he isn’t a piece with a ton of value. The Canes would likely take a shot due to the low risk factor but they aren’t paying for him</div></div>

Fair. He has a modified NTC, so i can't dump him to arizona or something like that tho, I gotta be realistic. I think a change of scenery and in imo a better organization will lead to his production growing tho. It's also nice cause he's got one year left and frees cap space up next year while still getting good play this year.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 4, 2022 at 2:34 p.m.

Thread: Second crack at this

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>Patches isn't working out in Vegas anymore? He played 39 games this year, had 19 goals and 37 points. In world is that not working out?</div></div>

Cap hit and injury history. and plus now with the smith contract, he's one of the few I'm willing to deal. Before the Smith extention he would stay and play 2nd or 1st line, but now since Vegas is bingo on cap (again) and theres still Roy, Howden, Hague, and Kolesar to bring back, that 7 mil is looking mighty valuable

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 4, 2022 at 2:31 p.m.

Thread: Second crack at this

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Blues pass.</div></div>

they dont have a decent backup. maybe comp is a little high tho

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 4, 2022 at 2:29 p.m.

Thread: Second crack at this

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 4, 2022 at 2:23 p.m.

Thread: Second crack at this

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac555</b></div><div>Apologies if I’m uninformed here, but where is it being said that Martinez is a “LTIR piece”. Is he reported as healthy?

I say this because if Knights (or third team) can retain on him to get his number down to $4m he’d be a perfect piece on a contending teams 2nd or even 3rd pairing.</div></div>

He had a serious eye injury last season, it's said it could potentially be career ending. I'm assuming the worst, but I wouldn't be surprised if he comes back, and in that case youre absolutely right.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 4, 2022 at 2:22 p.m.

Thread: Second crack at this

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>This an absurd amount of mostly bad or unnecessary moves</div></div>

It's really to free up down the line cap space. I think it looks a lot different if I didn't have to put the Reilly Smith contract in there. I didn't trade patches before the Smith contract, but now to fill out 4 full lines, thats gotta be one of the moves. I dealt McNabb cause of his term. It makes Vegas a free agency player because they haven't been that since they arrived.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 4, 2022 at 2:17 p.m.

Thread: Second crack at this

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>We would rather just pay the 6th to move Gardiner then pay a lot less for you to dump patches on us.</div></div>

Patches isnt a cap dump, its to replace nino for this year, and either return to carolina for cheaper or hit FA. Lehner is in there cause Freddie is an FA next year. Canes can rock with those two this coming year or trade freddie if they so choose. Next year theyll have at minimum 11.5 million to replace or re-sign two guys. Add that to whoever else they may need to re-sign, and their cap hits coming off the books, its future cap space while remaining in contention.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 4, 2022 at 2:11 p.m.

Thread: Second crack at this

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>evelutions2</b></div><div>Who is going to be eating the salary on both Lehner and Patches then? Because for this to work, Canes will need half retention on both. And if the Vegas thinks they can get a 6th for Gards from Edmonton, Canes will just cut out the middle man in that deal.</div></div>

They have Cap play this year cause Nino is coming off the books, his cap hit was 5.25, plus the hits of Domi and Trocheck are coming off the books. add Gardiner too thats plenty for the combined 12 of Lehner and Pacioretty. They could totally cut out the middle man, it could be formed as a 3 way trade, but for CapFriendly, I cant do that on Armchair Gm otherwise I would

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 4, 2022 at 2:06 p.m.

Thread: Second crack at this

Before Yall go murdering me on the Kane trade, I don't think Kane will actually get traded, but if I were GM I would pursue him, and I would offer the best I got, which is what I sent.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2022 at 1:46 a.m.

Thread: If I were GM lmk what yall think

Hey y’all, I misspoke about the patches trade. I meant 2 and 3 for him, idk why I said the 3 for Gardiners contract

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2022 at 1:44 a.m.

Thread: If I were GM lmk what yall think

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>That's not what you said above.</div></div>

I know I misspoke, I just changed it lol

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2022 at 1:37 a.m.

Thread: If I were GM lmk what yall think

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Setting aside some of these other things that are definitely off in Vegas' favor, how does Gardiner earn a 3rd to take one minute and then become worth a pick in trade the next?</div></div>

My thought process was 2 and 3 for Patches and Gardiner to match salary so it doesn’t kill the Canes Cap table

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2022 at 1:36 a.m.

Thread: If I were GM lmk what yall think

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheMooterus</b></div><div>Even if Dallas needed LD, I still don't entertain a Martinez trade until more comes out about his recovery. As recently as March, there was a chance that the injury he sustained was considered "potentially career ending"</div></div>

That’s true

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2022 at 1:35 a.m.

Thread: If I were GM lmk what yall think

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gdli</b></div><div>NYR - Nix on all three.</div></div>

You think so? I was torn on kravstov or Kappo’s RFA rights, and with Patrick And Hutton, could’ve (and prob should’ve) sent him to a place like Arizona, I just thought with the potential loss of strome or Copp, and Hutton for d depth, they take a chance on them

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2022 at 1:32 a.m.

Thread: If I were GM lmk what yall think

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>carts88</b></div><div>Flyers say no. Hart Will not be traded unless Were getting something ridiculous in return otherwise, that would be trading him for no reason.</div></div>

Hart threw up an .877 last year man, and this past year he put up a .905. Now yes was the defense so bad that calling it incompetent would be a compliment, yes, but Hart isn’t a proven commodity either unlike a John Gibson. The reason I dealt for Hart and not Gibson is cause Lehner has an 10 team NTC, and I could guarantee you Anaheim is on it. Philly could be, but it’s less likely imo. Not to mention Hart’s contract is cheaper. Plus Torts is well, Torts.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2022 at 1:22 a.m.

Thread: If I were GM lmk what yall think

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Riley816</b></div><div>I'd definitely make sure the 2023 1st is to 5 protected,

If Carolina can GET a 5th from EDM for Gardiner why PAY a 3rd for Vegas to take him.

Don't see Seattle giving up any picks for one year rentals.

Dallas doesn't need LHD. Six of their 7 DMen are LH.

Patrick is damaged goods. He should be done.

The Rangers probably take pick 48 for Kravtsov.</div></div>

The Seattle trade was cause of Driedger’s severe injury in the tournament a couple weeks ago. He supposed to miss half the year I’ve heard

And for the patches trade, the 2 and 3 were for patches and Gardiner was there to match salary so Carolina would accept.

I forgot Martinez is left handed, that’s my bad, thought it would be a good move for them to replace Klingberg and cause Gurianov could use a change of scenery

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2022 at 1:18 a.m.

Thread: If I were GM lmk what yall think

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PHEN</b></div><div>What did you do with Keegan Kolesar?? Young RFA. They definitely want him back.</div></div>

Shoot you’re right, must’ve glossed over Kolesar’s name by accident

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2022 at 1:18 a.m.

Thread: If I were GM lmk what yall think

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Setting aside some of these other things that are definitely off in Vegas' favor, how does Gardiner earn a 3rd to take one minute and then become worth a pick in trade the next?</div></div>

My thought process was The 2 and 3 were for Pacioretty, Gardiner was there to match enough salary so it doesn’t kill Carolinas cap table, otherwise they may say no

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2022 at 1:14 a.m.

Thread: If I were GM lmk what yall think

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlevinKalevra</b></div><div>Def no from Dallas</div></div>

Loss of klingberg made sense to me, but I forgot he’s left handed. And gurianov hasn’t produced like expected

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 2, 2022 at 10:06 p.m.

Thread: What do you want for these

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NJDevils1317</b></div><div>Why are the Devils trading up??</div></div>

This guy wants to trade for the devils pick, and IMO any NHL GM wouldn’t let Montreal hold the first two picks of the draft and get both Wright and Slafkovsky

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 2, 2022 at 8:57 p.m.

Thread: What do you want for these

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>majormoose007</b></div><div>Martin is already the backup</div></div>

My b forgot ab him lol

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 2, 2022 at 8:49 p.m.

Thread: What do you want for these

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheAlien</b></div><div>Canucks have zero use for Allen</div></div>

Allen would be a good backup cause I’ve heard Jaro Halak might not return

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 2, 2022 at 8:48 p.m.

Thread: What do you want for these

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigBadBurke</b></div><div>This is wild to me. So the cost of moving from 2nd to 1st OA is only a 3rd/2nd you think?</div></div>

Do the devils have multiple firsts this year? I thought they didn’t but if they do I’d definitely use those instead lol

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 2, 2022 at 8:30 p.m.

Thread: new goalie dubas gets crazy

Mrazek has an NTC, no way in hell he waives it to go to Ottawa. Not to mention Matt Murray has been arguably worse

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