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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 9, 2022 at 9:52 p.m.

Thread: Flames next year Johnny walks

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>3.5 isnt the horrible part. Its 2 years that is horrible, walks him straight to UFA. You give him a 1 year prove it deal before giving a long term contract.

Why would Tkachuk get 80M? He hasn't earned that. He should not get more than Point.

Im not hoping at all, I think logically</div></div>

Ok, then 1 year 3Mish. That's not really changing how much cap is available next year by much.

Point plays for Tampa. Huge difference in taxes. Tkachuk loses almost half his check in Calgary, while Point only loses 40% playing in Tampa. A 9.5M contract in Tampa is about worth a 10.75M contract in Calgary. Tampa & Florida are always gonna have cheaper player contracts compared to the rest of the league. Not contracts you should look at for comparison, unless you are one of those low tax teams.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 9, 2022 at 8:07 p.m.

Thread: Flames next year Johnny walks

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Traptor</b></div><div>No point in moving monahan if JG walks.
JG walking would force the flames to re-tool or re-build in which case they're not paying to move out contracts.
Team is not a playoff team without JG, especially if you're not getting another big FA to replace him.</div></div>

Why would it force a rebuild or retool lol? You'd still have a good team. Plenty of promising young guys like Pelletier to step up. You're still in a weak division too.

Trading Monahan would let you sign an additional FA or trade for someone.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 9, 2022 at 6:00 p.m.

Thread: Flames next year Johnny walks

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>That's based on your specific team only.

You gave Kylington a horrible contract. Give him 2.5M for 1 year then he can prove he is worth more while Calgary retains his rights. You also overpaid Gudbranson a bit and Tkachuk could also be paid less too</div></div>

How is 3.5M horrible lol? Maybe he'll get a little less, but he's got arbitration. Ethan Bear got 2M last year and he's had a better year than him. Same with Fabbro who got 2.4M & Bean who got 2.3M. I'd say around 3M.

I doubt Tkachuk gets less than 10M. His brother just got 8.3M and he's not nearly as good as Matt. You're gonna be buying up a lot of UFA years too.

It seems like you're just hoping everyone signs hometown discounts with your team.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 9, 2022 at 5:34 p.m.

Thread: Flames next year Johnny walks

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>They could just move Monahan when they want to make that in-season move.</div></div>

If they didn't move him they'd actually be over the cap right now by a little bit. I think they'd try to keep that cap flexibility before the season starts.

It's a bit harder to move a 6M contract in-season compared to off season also.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 9, 2022 at 5:20 p.m.

Thread: Flames next year Johnny walks

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>If Johnny walks why move Monahan?</div></div>

So you're not cap strapped and have space to make moves if necessary during the season.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31, 2022 at 10:17 a.m.

Thread: Wings next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DeadWingsv2</b></div><div>Straw man argument, it's apples to oranges and 4 years difference is a lifetime for a professional athlete, let alone a goalie... Even trying to compare the two is laughable, you can't possibly believe that is the same....</div></div>

Wtf are you talking about?

Who is even talking about a goalie? McCabe is a defenceman. Leddy is a defenceman.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31, 2022 at 9:43 a.m.

Thread: Wings next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy12Bob</b></div><div>PIT is forced to trade Pettersson (or Matheson), they're in cap hell and also have younger defenders losing their waiver exemption this summer and needs to be found roster spots. Pettersson will likely cost a 3rd round pick to acquire as will Schmidt in WPG.</div></div>

Pens have 29M in cap space next year lol. Fifth most in the league.

If Pettersson is avaliable for that cheap there will be more teams interested in a young d man with term. I doubt it would be only a 3rd.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31, 2022 at 9:31 a.m.

Thread: Wings next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DeadWingsv2</b></div><div>Complete apples to oranges, you're talking about trading for a backup goalie, not a top pairing defenseman (who just landed a boatload return on a trade a year later)</div></div>

Backup goalie??? What?

Leddy was a 30 year old d man with a 5.5M cap hit you traded futures for

You said, "Zero chance Detroit trades away futures and young players for older, more expensive players."

That's exactly what you did last year lol

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31, 2022 at 9:26 a.m.

Thread: Wings next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy12Bob</b></div><div>He didn't say that the player had no value. He said that the player had no value <strong>to Detroit</strong>. Those two sentences have completely different meanings.

Besides, with Marcus Pettersson available much much cheaper than what you're asking for here it's not a hard choice, for Detroit, to decline this offer. Try a different team.</div></div>

He did. He said McCabe had no value and then edited his comment.

What do you think Pettersson is gonna go for? Can't imagine you are going to get him cheap. D men with term are valuable.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31, 2022 at 8:40 a.m.

Thread: Wings next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DeadWingsv2</b></div><div>Zero chance Detroit trades away futures and young players for older, more expensive players. The value isn't the problem, the fit is.

Also, Wallinder looks like he's going to be a stud, trading him away would be a bad idea...</div></div>

Isn't that what you did with Leddy? Traded a 2nd for a vet d man.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31, 2022 at 7:33 a.m.

Thread: Wings next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TampaBayLightning22</b></div><div>Yeah 29 is too old for a rebuilding team that's still 4-5 years away from making a serious run.</div></div>

4-5 years!? That's crazy.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31, 2022 at 7:25 a.m.

Thread: Wings next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TampaBayLightning22</b></div><div>I said he has no value to us, Not that he doesn't have value. he's going to be 29 right before the season starts. he doesn't fit our young core. I would rather add a 25 year old Marcus Pettersson who basically does what McCabe does but only younger.</div></div>

McCabe is better than Pettersson.

29 is too old lol? McCabe would be a good fit. Great vet to pair with a young d.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31, 2022 at 7:19 a.m.

Thread: Wings next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>McCabe is a top 4 cost controlled shut down dman with term. You are kidding right?

Also have you seen Strome recently? 20 points in last 15 games</div></div>

Strome is very streaky. 21 points first 40 games / 20 points last 15 games. If Hawks are looking to rebuild I think they'd move on.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 31, 2022 at 7:17 a.m.

Thread: Wings next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TampaBayLightning22</b></div><div>Detroit passes, McCabe has no value to us. And that's way too much for Strome. Stick with Ottawa as Detroit 100% passes.</div></div>

McCabe is very good defensively. If you think he has no value then you are clueless.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 14, 2022 at 4:01 p.m.

Thread: Boston Boys

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jetlag</b></div><div>The 3 team trade list doesn’t really mean anything hertl either wants to stay or go to a contender and people are underestimating what teams give up for rentals</div></div>

Of course the 3 team trade list is a big deal. Only 3 teams can trade for him instead of multiple teams. What the Sharks would get would be limited to what those teams would be offering. Just like when the Sabres traded Hall last year. The return was weaker because Hall could decide where he wanted to go.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 14, 2022 at 3:59 p.m.

Thread: Boston Boys

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gary_bettman</b></div><div>Moot. Sharks are re-signing him. No one said a "kings-ransom" but this is a trash deal.</div></div>

That would be pretty dumb if they did.

If you think a 1st + roster player + good prospect is a "trash" deal then you're gonna be pretty disappointed if the Sharks trade him.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 14, 2022 at 9:21 a.m.

Thread: Boston Boys

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>Good excuse for a poor offer</div></div>

Are you expecting a kings ransom for a rental with a 3 team trade list lol?

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 14, 2022 at 7:24 a.m.

Thread: Boston Boys

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>Not an intriguing offer at all</div></div>

I don't think you're gonna get an intriguing offer for him. He's a rental with a 3 team trade list.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 5, 2022 at 6:21 p.m.

Thread: Vegas next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>Where is Martinez??</div></div>

Rumor he might retire

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 15, 2021 at 5:40 p.m.

Thread: Eichel Potential Landing Spots Per LeBrun

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rob32sjsharks</b></div><div>No sharks are almost as high on Bordeleau as they are on Eklund, and he is FAST proving last year was no fluke! he is our future 2 C</div></div>

Bro it's Eichel lmao

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 15, 2021 at 10:00 a.m.

Thread: Eichel Potential Landing Spots Per LeBrun

San Jose maybe

Thomas Bordeleau
Ozzy Weisblatt
Hertl? Maybe a 3rd team to flip him to if he's 100% not resigning in San Jose.
1st

Forum: NHL SigningsSep. 2, 2021 at 10:01 a.m.

Thread: Buffalo Sabres signed Casey Mittelstadt (3 Years / $2,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EmpressKayla</b></div><div>This reminds me of the Sam Bennett contract. Committing this much to Mittelstadt right now is pretty risky given that he has only had one decent season. However, if his growth this year is a sign of things to come, this could look like one of the best deals in the league by the end.</div></div>

It's only 2.5M for a guy that was at .53 PPG last season. Had 17 points in 28 games under Granato too. I don't really see how that's "committing this much". Seems pretty fair to me. Close to the Chytil deal. It's not like he's making 4.4M.

2.5M is a pretty easy contract to bury anyways.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 9, 2021 at 5:34 a.m.

Thread: Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TZ11</b></div><div>Haven't you noticed? The Ducks suck. And if they were to give up this much they would become West coast Buffalo. With Eichel they would probably be better than San Jose but that's about it. There would be no good LW on the team and RD would suck for years to come.

Ducks decline.</div></div>

How do you not understand what 5 years mean? Why do you think you have to be contending for the cup right away?

You're giving up Drysdale, Comtois, and probably a pick around 8-16. You could even have it protected top 8. Getting Eichel while keeping Zegras/McTavish would be a huge win.

Think you're overrating what you're giving up a bit.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 9, 2021 at 12:23 a.m.

Thread: Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Absolutely not. Why should we change places with Buffalo? They're crummy and have little hope of getting better with their current roster and prospect pool. We're currently almost as crummy, but we've already started assembling the roster (Comtois, Tracey, Lundestrom, Zegras, McTavish, Perreault, Colangelo, Drysdale, etc.) that will be very good in the not-too-distant future.

Having "Eichel for five years though" is meaningless because the first two years we wouldn't be anywhere close to a playoff spot having given up these prime young players (incl the 2022 first-round draft pick) and there's no assurance we'd be better off in years 3-5 with players chosen in later drafts.</div></div>

Having Eichel for five years is meaningless? Lol ok. Ducks are in a crappy division. You'd probably be contending for a spot with him immediately.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 8, 2021 at 10:27 p.m.

Thread: Eichel

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BCAPP</b></div><div>But the rest of the team is just not ready to compete. They're not at a point where I think they can trade that much future. LA is. Anaheim would make a trade like this in 2 years</div></div>

Well yeah, that's why I said they would have him for 5 years. It's not like he's a FA next year.

Anaheim probably won't get another opportunity to get a player like Eichel in a trade.

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