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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 4, 2020 at 5:29 p.m.
Thread: Anderson is done
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Zbaddest</b></div><div>Gustavson was shaky this year, should rebound. Hogberg was actually really good this year. Makes no sense to trade him. Hoffman has horrible character, no team wants him, he and his fiancé caused chaos in the Senators' locker room which is probably what caused the entire team to fall apart, and there is no need for Taylor Hall. I'd rather have Formenton, alone, than Dougie Hamilton, let alone all the other assets you gave away for him. Formenton is already amazing, even as a rookie in the AHL, and his speed will look incredible with the Sens, Ottawa would not give him away for that.</div></div>

Even Daccord was better so

And I know it's just for fun but will all young players coming up, they don't need any UFAs
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 4, 2020 at 5:03 p.m.
Thread: Unpopular Opinion but Pierre Dorion is a really good GM
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ForsbergForVezina</b></div><div>Like every GM, he has his wins and his losses, but I honestly think he's done a good job steering Ottawa through their rebuild. Whether or not it was a good deal at the time, the Karlsson trade seems to be working out really well for the Sens, as have the Duchene and Dzingel trades. Brannstrom is taking his time to develop, but with how the team is expected to get better, he's fairly on schedule as well. Also got the Islanders to overpay for Pageau and good value back in 2018 for Brassard.

The Zibanejad trade was bad, no doubt about that, as was the original Duchene trade and even though he had little control over the Mike Hoffman situation, that's a lowlight as well.

But with where the Senators are now compared to how we looked at them about two years ago, I think they're in a really good spot, in large part to Dorian's actions. Gonna have to agree with you</div></div>

I agree with this overall assessment and I'd add that his owner...isn't exactly lavish...to put it nicely. Hard to pin team success on the GM when he can't go out and sign real talent. So he's resorted to the draft and traded players when their value is maximized.

***EDIT*** Now HOPEFULLY for Sens fans, those plethora of picks don't walk away for nothing in return when (my prediction) players (for example...Shane Pinto just 1 example) can't find an NHL roster spot and only has 1 year left @ UND. That's not a hard choice to go back 1 more year.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 4, 2020 at 4:32 p.m.
Thread: Unpopular Opinion but Pierre Dorion is a really good GM
He's not the problem. He's had to get really creative in his time with Ottawa, and while I might not agree with all his moves, he's not always operating in a good position for leverage, given the ownership situation.

I think to be fair, a lot of credit is owed to Trent Mann and his scouting team (Which Dorion definitely had a hand in building), which has done an excellent job of identifying value players in the Draft (JBD, Pinto, Formenton, Batherson), as well as which prospects to target in trades (Norris, Brannstrom, Abramov). Also his brother Troy Mann who has been a fantastic Development coach in the AHL. Wouldn't be surprised if he landed an NHL job at some point.

That said the Sens really need to find someone who can assume the role of being that public face of the Organization, and let Dorion step back. Very rarely does he instill confidence in the fanbase when he speaks. It's just not something he's good at, and I don't think he's ever been overly comfortable with doing it. They never found an adequate person to fill the void Brian Murray left. Having a firmer hand would also be nice during contract negotiations.

Overall, I think he's done a fine job as GM given the circumstances, and he's probably as good as you could hope for under Melnyk. I think he's capable of much more if the constraints of ownership were lifted.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 4, 2020 at 4:32 p.m.
Thread: Unpopular Opinion but Pierre Dorion is a really good GM
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ForsbergForVezina</b></div><div>Like every GM, he has his wins and his losses, but I honestly think he's done a good job steering Ottawa through their rebuild. Whether or not it was a good deal at the time, the Karlsson trade seems to be working out really well for the Sens, as have the Duchene and Dzingel trades. Brannstrom is taking his time to develop, but with how the team is expected to get better, he's fairly on schedule as well. Also got the Islanders to overpay for Pageau and good value back in 2018 for Brassard.

The Zibanejad trade was bad, no doubt about that, as was the original Duchene trade and even though he had little control over the Mike Hoffman situation, that's a lowlight as well.

But with where the Senators are now compared to how we looked at them about two years ago, I think they're in a really good spot, in large part to Dorian's actions. Gonna have to agree with you</div></div>

This is the best take i have actually read. 100% accurate
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 4, 2020 at 4:15 p.m.
Thread: Unpopular Opinion but Pierre Dorion is a really good GM
Like every GM, he has his wins and his losses, but I honestly think he's done a good job steering Ottawa through their rebuild. Whether or not it was a good deal at the time, the Karlsson trade seems to be working out really well for the Sens, as have the Duchene and Dzingel trades. Brannstrom is taking his time to develop, but with how the team is expected to get better, he's fairly on schedule as well. Also got the Islanders to overpay for Pageau and good value back in 2018 for Brassard.

The Zibanejad trade was bad, no doubt about that, as was the original Duchene trade and even though he had little control over the Mike Hoffman situation, that's a lowlight as well.

But with where the Senators are now compared to how we looked at them about two years ago, I think they're in a really good spot, in large part to Dorian's actions. Gonna have to agree with you
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 1, 2020 at 11:28 a.m.
Thread: Byfield and Stutzle
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Zbaddest</b></div><div>Dorion said the Sens will be taking the best players, regardless of their position, with those two picks. And the Sens already have good D-prospects, so I don't see them going for Drysdale, though if they do, I'm not complaining. Ottawa has Jacob Bernard-Docker and Lassi Thomson, hopefully they'll be in the top 4, and they can draft other d-men later in the draft. If Byfield and Stützle are as good as scouts are saying they are, I don't see how Ottawa can miss their chance. Drysdale is really good but I don't think it's smart for Ottawa to draft a d-man so high in their draft when the forwards are too good to miss.

If anything, Ottawa might draft Rossi because he plays with the 67's and because he's more consistent. But I don't think Drysdale.</div></div>

I agree with this, the one thing lacking in Ottawa right now is top end Forward talent. We have solid D and now that they have officially signed Zub going for a D man that early just doesn't seem logical, pick two forwards in the top 5 (Wherever we land) and then if we really want a D man use the NYI pick for that. Although i could see us packaging that pick with a 2nd to move up if there is someone still on the board we like. There is no way we draft all 13 picks we have.