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Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs3 hours ago
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>I don't think this team is an add or two before being pushed over through top.
That's when that type of move is warranted.

At most we should do is cost effective add, anything else seems silly.


Adding a Hanifin or Tanev will not be cheap, and they are pending UFAs... just seems that we are gonna pay high price to only move the needle a bit.</div></div>

Disagree as if we look at this team the majority of problems can be warranted to defense

Their blue line offense is almost dead last in the league

And their defense has been god awful leaving the goalies to dry in most cases and coupled with all the injuries is getting exposed. Only Rielly has been for the most part the consistent bright spot


We know Woll can be good lets get him a competent Dcore to push things


As now the forward group is done with 4 useable lines (especially since rotating Reaves) but the Dcore is a mess

This team needs 2 additions to that blue line to really push em over the top


Like lets look at VGK

McNabb-Theodore
Martinez-Pietrangelo
Hague-Whitecloud

As we learned good Dcore's help win championships


Rn when healthy this was the Leafs Dcore

Rielly-Brodie
McCabe-Liligren
Gio-Klingberg

Thats not good enough as while top 4 is fine

You need someone to push Liligren down and give Gio a rest either by moving McCabe down or just being a nice third pair option

If the Leafs went and added Hanafin and someone to play with Rielly pushing Brodie to the 2nd pair that would improve things

As

Rielly-new guy (Lybushkin, Bear, Fabbro, etc)
Hanafin-Brodie
McCabe-Liligren

Thats pretty dam good

Brad can then extend Hanafin like Boston did with Lindholm (Wanted a deal in the 6.6m range) and still has room to keep Willy even at 10m and address some areas for 2024-2025
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs3 hours ago
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>The way I'm seeing how this season is playing out so far is..there was hope Holmberg would step up and be a 3rd/4th liner which hasn't happened. So...maybe the next hope is Hirvonen and perhaps Niemela on D will be ELC guys.

This is why Treliving can't just keep trading prospects because the roster will need ELCs to be part of the team IMO.</div></div>


True but they do got ELC's who are gonna most likely be part and ahead of these guys

Look at the team rn

Knies and Robertson.

Next season could be Cowen and Minten. So where are Hirvionen and Holmberg gonna work as you dont just want an entire bottom 6 of ELC's (unless they really good)


There are prospects you keep and others you turn into win now guys

Moving Hirvonen in a pkg to get a Dman makes sense for us rn. Same with Holmberg

Just got to be for the right guy
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs17 hours ago
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juice</b></div><div>There’s an incredibly significant gap between the confidence those other teams had in their superstar players returning for the playoffs vs the confidence anyone would have in tossing klingberg into the lineup for game 1 after 5 months away.

I get that logistically it makes sense, but practically that’s way too risky for a guy that’s been playing the way klingberg has the past few seasons</div></div>

Maybe but if he has surgery the timeline fits the picture as Kane got hip surgery end of June and is coming back this week for Det. If Klingberg wants to play without risking further dmg to his hip that might be the road he has to take. Or like Backstrom he may just be done

I think based on everything we have heard from reporters to his interview in Sweden there is a possibility we dont see him for a while. As man Mike Johnsson's report seems to suggest that hip aint right and we know hes had double hip surgery before. The concern probs is k we know he got it OCT 19 how bad did he make it by skating on it from then till Nov 11. Maybe doctor recommends surgery or long rehab idk hips be tricky.

Gonna be interesting as to me I think he could be done for the remainder of regular season or at the very least like Muzzin back after the TDL but who knows. Leafs management probs going can you just stay on LTIR till playoffs so we get 4.15m freed to add pls. As even if hes healthy come then probs wont use him unless something happens or they need some offense back there (I swear if they dont address it). But its up to him just dont ruin your career playing through it.

Maybe if he stays on LTIR or is an IR candidate someone will take to reach the floor or something as these deals seem to be like candy to bottom feeders look at Arizona

Just feel for the guy as his final game he looked fine than missed the 2 Sweden games and for him that had to be hard.


Anyways should find out by Friday what is the plan
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs20 hours ago
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>I think the bigger issue will be is the cost of adding players to this roster without having a ton of draft capital to trade away.

If it comes down to adding only one of a RD, LD or forward, what would you and others want Treliving doing?

This scenario could very well be realistic depending on who is available and what GMs asking price is.</div></div>

They do have enough to make the 2 moves needed but they got to be careful not to overpay

Lybushkin at 50% ret should cost a 3rd

Hanafin 1st + 3rd and pick the prospect/s (Hirvonen and Abruzzese) should be fine to make up for not having a 2nd.

Like last year a lot of guys who were expensive came with term or were packaged with another good player

Gavrikov + Korpisalo

Orlov + Hathaway


Rn Leafs have their 2024 1st and 3rd and their 2025 3rd thats all that is needed rn. From there it will be prospects and potentially Timmins used

Now there will be guys who are safe but guys like Hirvonen, Grebyonkin, Niemela, etc all could be fair game
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsYesterday at 2:29 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>Well you can choose to disagree with me but I feel this team has plenty of 3rd pair D and a few 7-8 guys stepping up and filling in quite nicely IMO.</div></div>

True but non feel like full time NHLers

Like Zadorov lets be honest is better than Benoit, Lagesson come playoffs.

He does give the size and strength you want but if your paying more than a 3rd + Abruzzese yea no lul


As this Dcore lacks 2 elements

1. A net front clearer (he can do it but also for some reason struggles)

2. Another guy to provide offense besides Rielly but who can also defend for the 1st or 2nd pair


He would help with one but they would need to find someone else.


Thats why to me the solution is spend big on Hanafin to help with the second issue then go find a cheaper net front defender and there is a guy in mind who once played for us

Ilya Lybushkin. Should not cost much to get and he played good enough with Rielly. He fits as Rielly often plays well with guys like this (Hainsey, Schenn, Lybushkin, Benn, etc). And with how Rielly is playing rn could work perfectly
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsYesterday at 2:13 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>I always thought Zadorov was/is a 3rd pair D and really nothing more. Playing him higher in the D pairings is just asking for disappointment.

It's kind of why I'm one of few people who would pass on him as trade option.</div></div>

Like to me if you get Zadorov if Tanev aint also coming than uh oh

As when you do that your left side can be

Rielly
McCabe
Zadorov

With a healthy right side of

Brodie
Tanev
Liligren

If you go for just him and only him and dont plan to add another D afterwards that aint good enough. Thats why to me if were targeting a single CGY D, Hanafin makes the most sense. As he aint injury prone like Tanev or isnt a bottom pair guy like Zadorov. He slots in nicely on the 2nd pair and allows for McCabe to move down if need be.

With CGY winning though idk when Conroy gonna go yea lets deal. And idk if Brad wants to wait to long

Lets see
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 2:04 p.m.
Thread: Reshaping the D next year and making a chippy 4th line
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>leafs101</b></div><div>it wont cost assets to deal kampf

EDIT: I just realized I threw the 1st in there I didn't mean to do that</div></div>

In general give Kampf good linemates and we see nice things


Lets be honest if Engvall and Mikheyev were still leafs or if they had kept Acciari and Lafferty he would be doing much better

Gregor and McMann have worked but they are not the guys above. Than you had Reaves dragging him down a bit as we overused that guy. Should be in and out like every other team was doing lul. And as soon as they did it, guess what it worked lul. Heck even when he came back wasnt a headache

To me the big mistake was moving Lafferty as he and Kampf were developing strong chemistry especially R2 of the playoffs.

Either way I think if they can just surround him with 2 nice pieces it will be fine and there are some options

Been suggesting along with Hanafin to try and get Greer whose got 4 goals and assists rn on CGY 4th line

Gregor-Kampf-Greer could be very interesting
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 1:41 p.m.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsYesterday at 1:01 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>Has it been confirmed he is coming back? Thought we were still waiting on that</div></div>

Were supposed to get clarity this week. But considering its a hip injury and hes been dealing with it since OCT 19 and it got bad enough to where he couldnt play in Sweden and is not walking right there is a strong possibility hes out for a while or at least till playoffs


And when you look at their current situation cap and all got a feeling we wont be seeing him for rest of regular season. As if he comes back they really cant make any move, as its gonna cost to much to move him in any deal now.

But yea considering TBL held out Kucherov till the playoffs, VGK with stone, and CHI with Kane lets do the same. Slow rehab Klingberg so hes back game 1 of playoffs
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsYesterday at 12:30 p.m.