Jul 2, 2019
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockey44</b></div><div>Due to the fact that making an armchair gm team rn is kind of pointless, I'll be posting discussion forums similar to my last post. This forum is about the hawks prospect and drafting. For this post, I strongly recommend watching the hawks training camp video
Link Here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-sQDqLr0mI" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-sQDqLr0mI</a>
1. Was Dach the right choice at #3 (strongly recommend watching the hawks preseason camp before making a decision)
2. Who was the hawks best steal of this year's draft?
3. What pick will the hawks have in the 2020 draft and who/ what position will they draft?
4. Is Brandon Hagel the real deal?
-He dominated in the camps this summer and was arguably the second-best player after Boqvist during camp.
5. Looking at the goalie situation, the Hawks brought in a bunch of undrafted/unsigned goalies from across the world for training camp. Some had very good seasons. Do you think any of the goalies could become the real deal?
6. Who will be the biggest impact player for Rockford this year?
7. Do the Hawks have any hidden gems in the system? If so who?
8. What does the hawks organization do differently that makes them so effective at developing players?
9. What hawks prospect are you most excited to see play this year? (Any league i.e WHL, AHL, NHL, etc)</div></div>
I numbered them to make it easier to jump around, and to respond:
1) Depends what they do to help develop him, a lot of the drafted players have high ceilings but lack current skill (i.e. Nylander, Saarela)
2) Alex Vlasic, at least so far. I can see him being the best defensive defenceman the 'Hawks have come Expansion Draft Time
3) Let's hope 31st, except I suspect they would've traded it if that's the case. I'm going to say early 20's and they're going to draft someone with potential, hopefully a Right Winger
4) Time will tell, lot of guys dominate in things like this and struggle playing with the best of the best (Sikura)
5) They need to give a couple a shot, I really like Gravel and Lankinen though, but the 'Hawks are scary good at finding goalies, let's hope they hide their secrets for awhile.
6) Versteeg, he's going to teach Dach how to use his body, and teach all those guys how to score.
7) Kurashev and Kubalik
8) They keep their AHL and NHL playing similar systems, and worry more about how a player could play, and not how their currently playing (Strome and Nylander)
9) Mitchell being one of the best NCAA players
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HatterTParty</b></div><div>Why like a 12th pick though? Why shouldn’t he play like the 3rd pick he is? By that logic, I’m trading seabrook with Dach and saying thanks for a weekend of press in Chicago. Maatta was a bad trade, Dach has almost no expectation from hawks fans cuz we didn’t want him, de Haan is good, nylander was freakin awful, and AA was a necessary trade. So, no, I don’t feel too happy about this off-season as a whole. I’m glad others are optimistic, but Dach better play like a 3rd overall pick, cuz this puck is gonna be talked about for a long time.</div></div>
Because we were supposed to have the 12th pick and won the lottery. I'm not sure if he's quite as good as Byram or Turcotte but again, the 'Hawks were looking for size, they tried trading down and no tteam (esp Vancouver) would take the trade. Maatta was a good trade, we pretty much got him free, Nylander we haven't seen other than playing for an awful team. He may end up being a bust but it's better than holding onto Joki knowing he'd never see another day in the professional league. Add that to acquiring Lehner, Kubalik, Wedin, and Saarelski... I've been against Bowman for awhile but look at last years roster vs today's, in one off-season he built a competitive team AND a legit farm system
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HatterTParty</b></div><div>I have always taken pride in respecting people’s opinions. I especially do this when debating a person with a complete opposite opinion.
Having said that, I will ask you the same thing that no one has been able to do for me yet: sell me on Dach. You mentioned in your statement that the hawks didn’t need more scoring or defense, but needed to replace hossa. So where does Dach fit into that logic? He isnt the skater hossa was at his best, all he is is scoring potential (albeit ill be shocked if he ever gets over 70 points), and it’s been established his defensive game has more holes than his inability to use his size to a premium. At least turcotte played two way hockey, had speed, and could score like crazy. Dach’s only selling point is a big body (that he can’t use) and he’s more developed at present (which is gonna be hilarious if they think he’s ready for the nhl).
Like I said, I very much respect your opinion. And I really do want people to sell me on Dach, cuz it hasn’t happened yet. The problem I have is that everything going into this off-season seemed to have a direction. Then maatta happened and everything (save for the de Haan trade) started coming off the rails. I have no idea what this team is anymore and it worries me as a fan. I really hope Dach is not the future 1C because he doesn’t not look even close to one, even potential wise. But hey, I’d love to be wrong. I’m still backing a seabs plus Dach trade to offload seabs’ contract.</div></div>
My hope for Dach is similar to Strome, he has raw athleticism and potential. Bryam and Turcotte are better players now, but Dach definitely has the highest ceiling. For me, I just need to see that Dach is at minimum a 12th pick and I'm okay (because anything higher is technically a win). deHaan was a great trade, Anismov that just happened was a necesssary and average trade. Which really leaves Maatta, who we traded an int'l signed guy for. Then Lehner who is a #1 goalie... I don't see why everyone thinks this has been an awful off-season.