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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 5, 2021 at 2:15 a.m.
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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 1, 2021 at 11:59 p.m.
Thread: One trade to upgrade the Top 6
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Reason</b></div><div>No, those are your words not mine.
What I said was that I am ok with trading a player I consider to be a lazy 3rd liner that is not liked by his teammates nor trusted by his coach. Third line players are expendable. Third line players that are lazy, disliked and not trusted, are not overly valuable assets, even if they are youngish.

I agree with you that Carter is close to retirement, I disagree with you that he is washed up. He’s only got two years left on his contract and I think he’s still got some life left in the tank. He had 17 goals in the shortened season last year, and if he plays with either Peterson or Horvat I’m betting he would be close to the 20 goal mark again, prorated for the shortened season of course.

I’m ok with Carter for the following reasons:

Carter can adequately hold down the second line RW spot for the next two season, hopefully Podkolzin is ready to fill it after that.

Vancouver is set to take a step back this year, Carter is a better second line RW option than what VAN currently has.

Carter is a multiple Stanley Cup winner, which is an added benefit to a dressing room with a lot of young players.

One additional thing I like about the trade:
Beagle is an overpaid fourth line center signed for another 2 years. Sutter can fill that spot this year, and a more cost effective option can fill it the year after.</div></div>

When have any of his teammates said they didn't like him or the coach say he didn't trust him? Do you have some inside info that no one else has?
Virtanen has improved every season and I think with top 6 minutes he'll do well. There's no way he gets traded for a declining asset like Carter.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 2, 2021 at 11:50 a.m.
Thread: One trade to upgrade the Top 6
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Reason</b></div><div><em>I would love to read the reports where is teammates dislike him can you provide me that?</em>

Ill give you this one. After looking for a quote, I will admit I may have misspoken on that point. I remember this being discussed on Vancouver sports radio after: Horvat had answered "Who is the player you would least like to quarantine with?", when pictures of Virtanen at a nightclub surfaced on social media during Phase 2 of the NHL's return to play, and after the altercation in the scrimmage. I cannot however find any type of quote so it may have been more speculation based radio talk than actual reports from inside the locker room, that I cannot recall.

<em> Travis Green has always shown Virtanen tough love and knows how to get the most out of him</em>

The only statement I've made about Green is that he doesn't trust Virtanen. If you Google, "Why doesn't Travis Green trust Jake Virtanen?" articles will pop up from reputable insiders. Green's trust in Virtanen has been brought up many times by many people.

<em>The same Sutter that can't stay healthy with terrible hips?</em>

I am fine with Sutter as a 4C for a season. He and Beagle are comparable, and if it rids us of two years of Beagle I am fine with it. Sutter played in 2/3 of the games last season, but if he's is injured at some point during the season there are others that can fill in for stretches, the Canucks have an abundance of bottom 6 forwards. As a side note I don't have a problem with Beagle as a 4C, but not at 3 mil.

<em>your okay trading a a young 20+ goal scorer who is still improving each year?</em>

I have already answered this, however Virtanen has not yet proven to be a 20+ goal scorer.
In Virtanen's 5 seasons with the Canucks he has never scored 20+ goals, he could have this year but there's no guarantees with his inconsistent play. If you add his regular season and playoff games/points together for 2019-2020 he had 20 goals in 85 games. I'm not saying he wont ever reach the 20 goal mark but he has yet to do so. He's also 25 this year, most players hit their peak at 24-25.</div></div>

Great so basically you've been talking out of your ass and have no idea what you're talking about