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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 31, 2019 at 12:23 p.m.
Thread: Nylander and Gardiner -- The Return and more
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HabsForEver</b></div><div>Montreal isn't going to give up assets for Gardiner when we can get him for free in FA in 3 months after the TD. Bergevin is smarter than that. Nylander is all hype and no skill. He has 7 points in 21 games, Why would Montreal pay high and take the chance that he rebounds. This trade seems like it is helping Toronto out while Montreal takes all of the risk. It's awful asset management.

If we trade for Maata, we will not be trading Lehkonen in a deal with him. He's part of the Finnish connection in Montreal. He is also our most versatile forward, he plays middle 6 minutes and plays PP and PK time and he is only 23.</div></div>

My goodness, all sorts of wrong with this post. I agree with the Gardiner position though, that's absolutely right and TO probably wants to keep him as their own rental. Habs have the cap and need for Gardiner so we should be in the running as much as anyone else for him in free agency next year.

The rest of your comment is ill-thought out though.

Do you remember when Domi scored only 9 goals last year and only like 5 with a goalie in nets? This is Nylander's Domi season of 17-18. The kid is ultra skilled and everyone in the entire league knows it. Don't let a bad start to the season confuse you. The chance he rebounds is the same chance Domi wasn't going to be a 9 goal player for the rest of his career. I think the stats this year speak for themselves now.

Lehkonen for Maatta almost makes perfect sense and if you think because he's finnish that he wouldn't be traded, that silly. He's being traded for another finn almost the same age, there are other finns on the team anyway so KK wouldn't be the only one and MOST importantly, Habs have a gluten of left shooting wingers on the team. BTW he plays almost no PP time. He's gotten the 10th most minutes amoung all forwards on the team and was mostly due to the abysmal PP we have that trying everyone was becoming an option. He is however an excellent PK'er but you have to give to get also. Maatta plays PP and PK and can be a top 4 here in Montreal.

Lehkonen is a good player, i'm not saying otherwise but Habs have a need for good LHD and have many wingers to offer. It only makes sense to move a bit of our strength for a position of need. Lehk's next contract will bring him in the 2.5-3 range so its not a big cap variance. (the trade mentioned above is an over payment IMO, if it were to happen, it would be 1 vs 1)
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 31, 2019 at 12:06 p.m.
Thread: Nylander and Gardiner -- The Return and more
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SammyT_51</b></div><div>Juulsen, Domi for Nylander. Do you take it? (You should, Nylander with Kotkaniemi would be INSANE)</div></div>

I think I'd rather have Domi tbh. We've seen what Domi can do with little help and as a center to boot. I don't know what a 6.9M Nylander would be like without Matthews and the Leafs around him.

IMHO, Domi scores just as many points as Nylander would had they're careers been swapped. Domi is a 40-50 point player on a bad team. On a good team? 60+ points isn't a stretch in the slightest.

Not to mention he brings an element that not many other players can. He plays feisty and backs it up. Nylander is a really good player but Im happy with what Domi brings and wouldn't want to mess with it.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2019 at 12:57 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 25, 2018 at 12:17 p.m.
Thread: Patch to TOR and Price to ...
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coolfreeze18</b></div><div>The idea was to trade Pacio for Marleau + more, because Pacio is better, younger and less expensive.
Very interesting trade idea for Weber.</div></div>

We might agree to disagree on Pacio and Marleau as I see Marleau doesn't have the offensive scoring as Pacio or JVR but plays the body, is an effective center, plays a complete 200 ft game and has soft hands in front of the net. After watching Marleau for a few games in San Jose especially the playoffs and being impressed I will concede that Pacio is better than Marleau in certain areas but as an overall player I feel that Marleau is better.

I have to be honest and admit that I haven't watched many regular season Hab's games in the last 3 years here on the East Coast of Canada since web streaming has allowed me access to the whole NHL schedule. I have caught almost all their playoff games though. The previous 42 years I was forced to watch Montreal games ad nauseam. :)

Gardiner is a top skater, very creative offensively (not sure if you have seen his amazing breakout passes that show an elite hockey IQ) and is 5 years younger than Weber. We have gotten burned by him like you used to with Subban but the offensive upside FAR out weighs the odd defensive gaff IMO. It would give Montreal that skill in a LHD that they are sorely lacking.

OTOH Weber is a strong, heavy shooting RHD that was never a great skater before and now has had serious leg injuries making him even slower. Interestingly, with the speed and skill on our defence we don't have anyone strong enough break up the cycle in our D zone nor do we have anyone with his shot. His lack of foot speed could be compensated for by a number of Leaf LHD. Retain just $2,357,143 while rebuilding and I feel both sides win.

Patches as a rental for a 1st pick and a top LW prospect gets Montreal cheaper and younger for a player that won't be coming back. Add a decent 3rd pair RHD like Carrick or Holl to sweeten the deal.