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Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 22, 2020 at 1:04 p.m.

Thread: Somehow doing it

I would do that Killorn trade in a heart beat.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 21, 2020 at 4:57 p.m.

Thread: This would be cool

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JToller1</b></div><div>If they take Subban, the Devils are retaining at least 3 mill</div></div>

No one is trading for PK this year. For one, they need to actually see him bounce back. Second, he is due another large bonus payment at the end of the 20-21 season, after which he's only due $2m real world salary. Anyone considering kicking the tires will wait for that to be paid out.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 21, 2020 at 2:03 p.m.

Thread: Lineups for This Season for All Teams - New Jersey

I don't see them bringing any other forwards in. Zajac isn't getting moved to wing. Bastian probably has the inside track over McLeod. I'd be surprised if Bratt takes less money than Kapanen got. Severson is 1RD.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 21, 2020 at 1:28 p.m.

Thread: Could They

I think once Toews was shipped out, the decision to keep Leddy was made.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 19, 2020 at 7:33 p.m.

Thread: RFAs being traded because its the only way out

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil1122</b></div><div>Devils don't really need Cirelli</div></div>

I would dispute this.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 27, 2020 at 4:00 p.m.

Thread: 3 moves

I'm skeptical Risto is on the block. I would do that deal on NJD's end, though.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 27, 2020 at 2:53 p.m.

Thread: Devils

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Warrior24</b></div><div>Agreed, I think the Isles would probably have to attach a 3rd to Hickey and get a 5th back.</div></div>

No, I don't think that would do it, either.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 27, 2020 at 2:38 p.m.

Thread: Devils

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Warrior24</b></div><div>Ho-Sang gets a bad rap, but when he has been in the NHL he has produced fairly well. It would not be surprising to see him do well in a top 6 role.</div></div>

In any event, if anyone had any interest they could have offer-sheeted him for a one-way at league minimum and I'm certain NYI would not have matched. Not sure he's going to entice anyone to take Hickey's 3.75m.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 27, 2020 at 2:25 p.m.

Thread: Devils

Would be genuinely funny how caved in a Goose-Hughes-Ho Sang line would get.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 25, 2020 at 10:37 p.m.

Thread: Looking back at Devils trades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>draft_em_sign_em_trade_em</b></div><div>The Vatanen was a lost, if the Greene rental cost was a 2nd Rd pick than Vatanen should have been also a 2nd Rd pick.

Tbay won the trade. Cup win plus the much needed cap space.

Simmonds was worse than a loss, it was an franchise embarrassment, which might cost them the ability to sign future UFA's.</div></div>

Sami was hurt. That was the best they were going to do.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 25, 2020 at 8:05 p.m.

Thread: Buff

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shaners79</b></div><div>I'd say I'd take him for a 3rd if the Sabres could take Carrick. Our right side would look pretty decent and I'd rather pair up Smith with Miller. Is he injury prone or is he always a healthy scratch?

Anyway ,

Butcher, Subban
Murray, Severson
Smith/Kulikov, Miller</div></div>

I hope butcher and subban isn't the top pair.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 25, 2020 at 8:04 p.m.

Thread: Just a little squeeze

Don't see them taking Johnson's contract, even to get Cernak.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 25, 2020 at 2:52 p.m.

Thread: PK Subban

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jim_Benning_Almost</b></div><div>Although I like Pernell-Karl Sylvester's game, and would welcome him on the Canucks, we can't afford $9 million per year next year on him. NJ would need to retain at least $2 or $3 million in this deal.</div></div>

In this theoretical deal, the Devils are already retaining 6m by taking Eriksson.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 25, 2020 at 1:00 p.m.

Thread: Code RED

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>crankshaft</b></div><div>Before Covid teams we're under the impression that the cap was going to rise. It was going to.</div></div>

I think it's about on-hand cash and expected revenue just as much as it is about present day cap space. Teams just don't want to pay the money, even with the assets coming their way.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 25, 2020 at 12:49 p.m.

Thread: Code RED

I don't think Boychuk is happening. I'm starting to think teams are just going to have to live with their mistakes.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 22, 2020 at 10:44 a.m.

Thread: Barzal Offer Sheet

I really don't think anyone is going into the 4 1sts tier.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 22, 2020 at 10:23 a.m.

Thread: Possibly

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Whalers7997</b></div><div>Tampa has zero cap space. Nobody is taking Tyler Johnson's contract or Gourde's. They need cap space. Eventually, the gm is going to panic.</div></div>

They're in a bind, but I have to think Killorn and Palat are two guys they could move without much issue apart from the NTCs.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 21, 2020 at 8:38 p.m.

Thread: Buffalo

NJD isn't really doing cap dumps.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 13, 2020 at 9:05 p.m.

Thread: Why arent they doing anything

maybe they like their internal guys

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 13, 2020 at 8:44 p.m.

Thread: Do people still say Bae

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Unattractive destination? What. NJD is not Winnipeg.
They weren't going after Hall, Pietrangelo, etc. They are building through the draft.
This isn't even an issue.

Carry on.</div></div>

More like those guys were never signing here. They are "building through the draft" because the team was so bad, mostly because of Subban, Hughes, and Schneider, that they immediately re-entered a rebuild.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 13, 2020 at 8:38 p.m.

Thread: Do people still say Bae

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigShoots</b></div><div>Yup the higher the earnings the harder it is to live up to that contract. Subban at 4-5 mil prob isn't bad. In a trade has negative value unless 2-3 mil is retained.</div></div>

He's not going anywhere until his final bonus installment is paid out.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 13, 2020 at 8:36 p.m.

Thread: Do people still say Bae

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Who have they wanted to sign, but couldn't because Subban is on roster? Who have they overpaid?

NJD has an estimated $8 million in cap space this year, and $20 million coming off books next year and $16 million rolling off year after that. There are fine salary cap-wise.</div></div>

When what you need are elite, top-of-market players who are good enough to push everyone currently on your roster down, $8m isn't a lot of space. When you're such an unattractive destination for free agents you probably need to add 1-2m per year to any contract, it's hardly any space at all.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 13, 2020 at 8:07 p.m.

Thread: Do people still say Bae

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>What? No. He is significantly overpriced...but cap dump means you'd pay someone to take some of his salary. NJD would not give up Zacha, Merkley, etc...to move him. He is still a middle-pairing d-man. And NJD has no reason cap-wise to pay for him to leave.</div></div>

I know exactly what a cap dump is and Subban is a cap dump. I just said the price to move his cap hit isn't worth it. He's not a middle pair guy and NJD would absolutely benefit cap wise moving him, it's just the price would be exorbitant and no one wants to sign here anyway. But the narrative of NJD being awash in unlimited cap space is false and seems to crop up the most when Subban becomes a topic of conversation. When you need to overpay for literally anyone to consider coming to your team, borderline NHLers paid at the top of the pay scale are issues. No one is touching PK until his final bonus is paid out and that's assuming he shows anything next season.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 13, 2020 at 7:54 p.m.

Thread: Do people still say Bae

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div> Subban is not a cap dump.</div></div>

He is a cap dump at this point. It's just not really worth the price it would take to clear it since there is no indication at all that anyone actually wants to play here.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 13, 2020 at 7:13 p.m.

Thread: New Jersey blockbuster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shaners79</b></div><div>To NJ:
Eriksson
Virtanen (extension)
Rafferty
2022 1st

To Van:
McLeod
Jacobs</div></div>

I'm not sure NJ has the cap room for Eriksson and Virtanen after Mack and Bratt are taken care of.

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