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Armchair-GM
Dec. 4, 2023 at 9:07 p.m.
Thread:
Whats the cost
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KINGS67</b></div><div>I’d say a 1st.</div></div>
Sheesh, I'm not sure he'll get a first but if that's the ask that probably takes the Leafs out of the running
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 4, 2023 at 9:05 p.m.
Thread:
Whats the cost
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SomeonesOffended</b></div><div>Likely a 1st and that needs to be used on tanev leafs need defence more</div></div>
What?! He's projected to score 40 points this year, I get that he's a great two way forward but idk. I'd love to hear the rational on how he's worth a first though.
His value without retention is likely a second round pick or a third round pick, with retention the ask is more up in the air.
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 9, 2023 at 11:55 p.m.
Thread:
Klingberg trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jakdonaghy</b></div><div>Sharks should accept any deal involving Rutta.</div></div>
Looks like there could be a deal made then, would the Sharks do a one for one? Or are draft picks needed for the trade?
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 9, 2023 at 8:52 p.m.
Thread:
Klingberg trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kinger25</b></div><div>I’d love if that was enough</div></div>
Rutta probably doesn't have much value around the league anyways;
Rutta = 3rd
Dumping Klingberg = 3rd
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 9, 2023 at 8:51 p.m.
Thread:
Klingberg trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jaok3</b></div><div>Do you think Klingberg waives for the sharks?</div></div>
He'd waive and try pumping his numbers rather than risked being waived and stuck in the minors.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 29, 2023 at 12:40 p.m.
Thread:
3 way trade - PHI TOR VAN
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>I don’t think we trade for Klinger again unless there was another deal already lined up for us to get more assets</div></div>
Yeah that'd be the idea, potentially ship him out w/retention for picks.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 29, 2023 at 12:39 p.m.
Thread:
3 way trade - PHI TOR VAN
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>The Blues have no cap to sell.</div></div>
Yeah I figured, I just chose STL because there's been a trade history between the two teams in the past. It could really be any team looking for a mid round pick with some extra cap space.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 29, 2023 at 12:38 p.m.
Thread:
3 way trade - PHI TOR VAN
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Epic_Ninja_Dude</b></div><div>Canucks decline. No interest in Klingberg, we already have enough offensively minded defencemen.</div></div>
The idea is to then flip Klingberg and a pick for a defensive defenseman, so that salary retention isn't needed. Guys like Tanev, Pesce, Dumba, Larsson, Murphy all make around what Klingberg makes currently. If you attach a pick to Klingberg the Canucks could run a d-pairings like:
Hughes - Larsson/Murphy/Tanev/Dumba/Pesce
Cole - Hronek
Soucy - Myers
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 29, 2023 at 12:33 p.m.
Thread:
3 way trade - PHI TOR VAN
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMDannyB</b></div><div>So Flyers give up the 2nd and 3rd best player in the trade to get two worse players? Yeah flyers auto decline</div></div>
I'd say Garland and a pick in the 25-32 range for Frost, Hathaway and a pick in the 42-48 range is fair value.
Frost seems like a guy who could use a change of scenery as does Garland.
When Garland is on he's essentially Konecny lite, which is exactly what the flyers prioritize in terms of players to target.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 27, 2023 at 6:02 p.m.
Thread:
TDL 24
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ht42</b></div><div>The philosophy of Kent Hughes is " I only trade my players if I get an offer that I can't refuse.". He will wait until a GM paid MASSIVELY for Monahan and he will trade him after that.....</div></div>
In theory that works, but if you're too rigid in your asking price you could be left with no legitimate trade partners.
I'd be surprised if Monahan fetches a first, but lesser players have fetch more than I previously though so it remains to be seen
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 27, 2023 at 5:21 p.m.
Thread:
TDL 24
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MTLaveragefan</b></div><div>Monahan is gonna cost someone a first round pick.
He's been a STUD with the habs when healthy.</div></div>
That's fair too, Monahan has looked really solid.
But I think his value will be closer to Barbashev's than O'Rielly's come the trade deadline. Time will tell what his true value is amongst the league.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 27, 2023 at 5:20 p.m.
Thread:
TDL 24
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pretzelcoatl</b></div><div>Devils decline. No reason to sell off a depth piece to a possible playoff rival</div></div>
Lajoie is a decent depth piece too, the Foote for Lajoie swap is moreso so the Leafs have more RHD depth.
The devils have Hamilton, Miller, Marino and Nemec all ahead of Foote in the depth chart and get to bank a pick that can be flipped for a more pressing need later in the season.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 14, 2023 at 11:47 a.m.
Thread:
This was the signing I didnt like
Domi's best season were when he was able to play center, I'd rather have him play 2C and push Tavares to the wing and playing Nylander with them. It'll be a tire fire defensively but if sheltered could be a useful glass cannon option for the leafs
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 5, 2023 at 11:55 a.m.
Thread:
Revamping the D
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DontTradeDougie</b></div><div>Why does every leafs fan think CGY wants a 33 year old Brodie</div></div>
I mean you could say the same about Tanev, realistically I think Brodie and Tanev have about the same value. There are both pros and cons to their situations, if the plan in Calgary is to retool flipping Brodie would something you look to do by the deadline.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 5, 2023 at 11:52 a.m.
Thread:
Revamping the D
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NMAvsFan</b></div><div>Toews for Nylander straight across - you aren't getting Lehkonen, too; the Avs need him too much.</div></div>
Yeah I agree, my logic here is:
Toews = Nylander
Lekhonen = McCabe
Maybe more draft capital needs to be sent the Avs way but I think it's a relatively fair deal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2023 at 1:38 p.m.
Thread:
CGY and TOR blockbuster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tjm220</b></div><div>And signing Mayfield for $4 to $4.5 million for the next three years can do the same thing without giving up anything, all while costing less than Brodie, who you are obviously replacing with Mayfield here. So why should the Sabres play your little game when they can just take the guy you want instead?</div></div>
Well again Brodie is an elite regular season defender, over the course of 82 games he'll improve whatever pair he's on. The Leafs and Sabres are ultimately in different places with their franchises, Brodie is a player that will help you get to the playoffs, while Mayfeild is one that helps you go further in them.
I think with a D-Core of:
Samuelsson - Dahlin
Power - Brodie
Grzelcyk - Lyubushkin
The Sabres easily make the playoffs assuming the offence holds and even if it slips it would be a top 10 D-core in the league IMO.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2023 at 1:00 p.m.
Thread:
CGY and TOR blockbuster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mortarhead</b></div><div>you think a 40G scorer whos horrible in his own zone is worth more than a 35G scorer who goes to the front of the net AND a top 4 young dman with speed?</div></div>
I think Nylander would fetch a package like Hanifin + 3rd
I also think Toffoli would fetch a package like Brodie + 2nd
Ultimately I think it's a close deal. The Leafs might have to add a little in terms of draft compensation, but it's not this huge gap. Now, do I think it makes sense for the Flames to buy at this moment? No, I think a retool is what needs to be done. With that being said, I like a lot of what the Flames have done in the past, I don't doubt that they'll turn it around in 2-3 years.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2023 at 12:54 p.m.
Thread:
CGY and TOR blockbuster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tjm220</b></div><div>Buffalo isn’t interested in Brodie when they can just pay Mayfield more than you are offering him instead of eating that $5 million contract you need to get rid of. If Buffalo wants to get rid of Comrie they can throw him on waivers and give up nothing to do it.</div></div>
Brodie's deal expires next year, it would allow for cap flexibility plus Brodie has shown that he can elevate a pairing from bad to mediocre, from mediocre to good and from good to elite. A Power-Brodie pairing looks good on paper but Brodie would elevate that pairing into having elite results.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2023 at 12:50 p.m.
Thread:
CGY and TOR blockbuster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GreatWhiteNorth</b></div><div>Overall, this just doesn’t work. It might be a wildcard team and likely would face the same issues in playoffs again and it looks like you’re just making trades for the sake of making trades and they don’t have logic behind them really.
St.Louis deal - Blais would be a great 3rd line addition for Toronto but after he was traded back to the Blues he was on a 53 point pace and plays physical, plus he had a really strong world championship. Those types of players have good value and especially with his cheap 1 year contact - I doubt St. Louis is looking to move him again right now unless it’s an overpay and Timmins isn’t that. Frankly he doesn’t fit in St. Louis who already have Faulk, Parayko, and Bortuzzo (yes they can trade one of them but you don’t trade one of them to make room for a big like Timmins who is a #6 or 7 guy). For those reasons, St. Louis declines.
Buffalo deal - why are all Leaf fans dumping their best defenceman? He’s on a great deal and he makes every partner he plays with better. Getting a third string goalie like Comrie can be done for cheap via UFA and the picks aren’t that beneficial for Toronto, and Brodie isn’t a cap dump. Leafs decline.
Calgary deal - just doesn’t make sense for either side. Leafs don’t need to pay much to move Murray if they choose to, he has a cheap buy out. &why move that much to acquire Toffoli for a 3rd line spot? Marner and Nylander are 100% the top 6 options at RW so paying that many assets for depth isn’t smart. Zadorov would be a decent add but again you don’t need to overpay to do it. Robertson + mid round pick is plenty for a 3rd pair guy but even then it doesn’t make much sense when they have a similar guy in McCabe who’s better. & as for Calgary, they’ll likely look for more sure thing pieces if they move Toffoli. Too many question marks around Robertson’s health to be the main part of the deal.
Arizona deal - while your trade comparable is great, for a team like Toronto it actually benefits them to keep Muzzin on LTIR. This allows them to use their cap relief since they’ll be a cap strapped team again which gives them more flexibility, moving him negates that and makes the cap harder to work with.</div></div>
Honestly, I just have to disagree with the first portion of what you're saying. The past 5 cup champs all have one thing in common and that's they had big bodies on defence contributing big minutes. This lineup also allows for the Leafs to make a bigger trade deadline move, Holmberg is able to go up and down the waiver wire, and if Rooney and Comrie are moved closer to the deadline the Leafs could add a partner for Rielly or a 3C with double retention. Backlund/Henrique/Lindholm would be amazing 3C options and Tanev and Demelo could helm a top pair and could be targets for the Leafs.
The Blais trade is probably the one I was least sure on, I know he hits a ton and puts up really solid underlying numbers. I think Timmins could make sense in a swap but I agree there would have to be more added to the deal to make it worth it for the Blues. Timmins is no slouch either though, if he can stay healthy he is primed for a breakout season next year. When he was in the Leafs lineup, he was on pace for 46 points over an 82 game season. Plus the fact that he is a right handed shot and 6'2 doesn't hurt either.
I have a love/hate thing with Brodie, I think he's a legit top pairing defender but I think his play stagnates in the playoffs. He can elevate a pair in the regular season but his presence in the playoffs leaves a lot to be desired. He was mediocre in MTL, pretty good in TBL in 2022 and awful in both series in 2023. Comrie is strictly a cap dump in this instance, he definitely has negative value around the league and the Leafs could use insurance if Woll seems out of his element into the season.
I think Murray is going to cost at least a 3rd + 7th to move off of, Pittsburgh and Dubas might throw the Leafs a bone and try to double down on Murray. But apart from that it'll take something like that package to move off of him. The buyout route doesn't make sense for the Leafs as AM34 and WN88's big extensions are set to kick in next year, having ~2m in buyout penalties will put the Leafs in a really tough spot. I'd rather retain on his contract this year when the Leafs actually have extra cap space to work with.
It's a common misconception with LTIR, it only benefits the team if the player is set to play in the playoffs. Having no players on LTIR actually gives the Leafs more space closer to the deadline. If a team has 1m in capspace at the deadline they'd be able to acquire 2m in players. So in this instance 127k in cap space turns into 255k in cap space at the deadline, it's not much but it is an extra ~1m the leafs can use if they apply double retention to whoever they acquire at the deadline.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2023 at 12:13 p.m.
Thread:
CGY and TOR blockbuster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mortarhead</b></div><div>To Calgary
Nylander, Brodie
To center of the NHL universe
Toffoli, Hannifin</div></div>
I mean that's not too far off. I think Nylander would have more value around the league than Hanifin would, but Toffoli probably holds more value than Brodie around the league.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 24, 2023 at 12:10 p.m.
Thread:
CGY and TOR blockbuster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gmonwy</b></div><div>Can leaf fans stop sending us the injury prone Robertson? Plus that doesn't get you that package</div></div>
I'm confused Toffoli went for a 1st + 5th + a B level prospect + an AHL player last trade deadline, surely his value hasn't gone up in that time? He was paid a premium because of the term attached to his sweet heart deal. The deal outlined is similar to the one Calgary made for Toffoli, where the return is a first (in a strong draft year) + B level prospect. Zadorov is a bit of a unicorn there's not too many trades invovling guys like him. I think the closest comparable would be Manson but Manson had a track record of logging top 4 minutes which ultimately led to a bigger package (2nd + B level prospect). I think maybe a 2nd + C level prospect makes some sense, maybe a guy like Abruzzese he's had success with Coronato that could be a fun reunion.
Toffoli for 28th + CHI's 5th + Robertson
Zadorov for a second + Abruzzese
Dumping Murray = 3rd + 7th
We could just remove Rooney from the trade entirely at that point. I think that's fair, Calgary has limited leverage with Toffoli seemingly wanting out. I think you'd be hard pressed to find offers much better than this one.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 12, 2023 at 6:37 p.m.
Thread:
What Id Like to See Hopefully Realistic
I'd counter with Robertson + 1st + Murray for Laughton + Seeler
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 3, 2023 at 8:23 a.m.
Thread:
Players on ELCs that will contribute
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Why are you trading away Jarnkrok to sign Fast? That is so pointless</div></div>
Fast is a much better defensive forward than Jarnkrok. He also forechecks more than Jarnkrok does, the Leafs have a bunch of guys who can hit 40 points and would benefit more from a guy like Fast
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Armchair-GM
May 27, 2023 at 4:14 p.m.
Thread:
TOR-MIN
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>I... don't hate that MIN trade.</div></div>
I think it's fair, Jarnkrok has a sweet heart contract and the Wild like having those around especially with the Suter and Parise buyouts in mind.
It leaves the Wild with a lineup of:
Kaprizov - Hartman - Zucc
Jarnkrok - Eriksson-Ek - Boldy
Johansson - Gaudreau - Free Agent (Fast)
Shaw - Dewar - Duhaime
Goligoski - Spurgeon
Brodin - Addison
Middleton - Timmins
Which I think is really solid all things considered.
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Armchair-GM
May 24, 2023 at 7:12 p.m.
Thread:
Cap Dump musical chairs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mjoyce001</b></div><div>Minnesota isn't the place to contract dump a 4th liner on</div></div>
uh I don't know many 4th liners who put up 20 goals and play on the PK. I think he can be a fit on your 3rd line next year IMO, especially if Rossi can make the jump
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