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Jan. 28, 2023 at 2:00 p.m.
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Timo at QO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>A late 1st for Meier, even in the offseason, is a massive underpay</div></div>
Read the description at the top of the page. The trade would be at this deadline and would obviously cost more, it was just for the purpose of illustrating they could afford him at his QO if needed
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 28, 2023 at 1:58 p.m.
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Timo at QO
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>But there goes the following years when Matthews (who will get $13M or more) and Nylander (who will get $9M or more) need to be resigned not to mention Lillypad, Sandin, the entire bottom 6 and a goalie.
The issue isn't fitting in Meier next year, it's the year after. Unless of course Matthews walks which is entirely possibly if the Leafs fizzle out in the playoffs again this year and next; if that happens, he's as good as gone.</div></div>
I think with where this team is, you do the best you can this year and next year and then see where the chips fall with Matthews and Nylander. There's a lot of apprehension among the fanbase from what I've seen of trading for someone like Horvat or Meier because the acquiring team would likely be parting with a lot of assets because they'd be fine doing that to sign them long term, and Timo's QO could be seen as a bit of an issue in acquiring him. This was just to show that the QO isn't as much of a handicap as one would think if they weren't willing or able to lock him up long term because of Matthews and Nylander. You could always just trade Timo at next deadline to recoup some assets if the team is underperforming and unable to sign him long term, but I think the purpose of this was to show that he could be looked at as at least a 1.5 year rental instead of just a rental for this season if they couldn't sign him long term for whatever reason.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>teatimetibs</b></div><div>But why would you sign Meier at his double-digit QO when you could sign him long term and bring the cap hit down to 8-9M?</div></div>
Just to show that they could afford the QO to keep him for next year as well if they couldn't keep him long term with the Leafs' current big four contracts up shortly. Obviously he's more likely to sign long term somewhere, but it was just to confirm they could offer him the QO so they could a the very least get the offer sheet compensation if they were unwilling or unable to sign him to a long term contract someone else is.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 6, 2022 at 4:24 p.m.
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Opening Night
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>It's interesting how half the Leafs fanbase loves Holl while the other half hates him.</div></div>
The fact of the matter is just he isn't good enough but he can perform capably in a role (2RD minute muncher/PK1) with a strong partner in a way the other options (Sandin/Lily) haven't proven yet. Because of his role and size (6'4, led the D in hits - though that was more of a function of health), meat and potatoes people will like him. The issue is, given their point in the contending cycle and cap structure, the Leafs are unlikely to find someone who can perform in his role at a similar or lesser cost, unless the internal options step up, making him valuable to the Leafs from a cap perspective, but also one of the options they may have to move out because of the cap issues they have (although I personally think Engvall is the sneaky candidate to be moved out of the more obvious trade options - they value Kerfoot's versatility way too much to move him and Holl at this point is sadly too valuable to their D corps versus what they'd likely get in a trade)
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 17, 2019 at 6:39 p.m.
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Procrastination
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brocklesnar</b></div><div>Spezza is not signing for that term and money. There is no reason for Marner to accept anything less than Matthews received.</div></div>
If only I addressed something like this in the description.
I just picked Spezza as a guy who's been a healthy scratch down the stretch, had a bit of a downturn points wise in the past few years, getting pretty old, nearing the end of his career, and looking to win a cup, in this case, in his hometown. The point still stands you can find guys year in, year out to take the minimum to be adequate depth players. And again, I assumed slightly optimistic contracts, but at the same time there is no reason Marner should be offered anything near what Matthews received. That's why they negotiate. There is one winger league wide making 8 figures and that's Patrick Kane, who has quite the resume. Even Kucherov just signed his 3rd contract that is mostly made up of his UFA years at 9.5
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