Jan 2, 2017
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TooMalevolent</b></div><div>Dumba defensively is not that much better than Barrie. He has spent time next to literally one of the best defensive defensemen in the league, and has bleed chances. In this proposal you put him next to Muzzin, who I absolutely love, but he is not as good as Brodin at this stage. And you are asking that pair to play the shutdown minutes, because that second pair definitely can't. And you have absolutely trashed your team upfront.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TooMalevolent</b></div><div>You are too kind, his defending is definitely below average. These people that think Dumba is so good really do need to watch some Wild games.</div></div>
Yeah, I get that. Rielly/Dermott could also function as a pair, as I honestly don't see Holl as a Top 4 guy, which could potentially alleviate some pressure off of the Muzz/Dumba pairing. Like I said in the description, I think Muzz can function as the first guy back to give Dumba a little more freedom to be that offensive guy.
Unfortunately we don't get much Minnesota hockey in Ontario, so I can't really comment on his skill as a defender. I still have some faith in him from the fantasy hockey pool when he had a 50 point season. Giving up Nylander is a difficult pill to swallow for sure though.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Klara</b></div><div>where do I start on whats wrong with this:
- Labanc gets more
- Meier with Couture over Labanc
- Gregor is not 3C
- Noesen is not 3RW
- Melker Karlsson is not coming back, especially for anything more than league min
- Doubt Bergmann ever gets an NHL game again.
- Goal tending is atrocious, #1 priority is to bring in a 1A/B type goalie who can split games
- Middleton is not NHL material, and I doubt he is coming back (brother already left)
- Dahlen is staying in Sweden
- Simek is absolutely not playing with Karlsson, it would be Vlasic or Ferraro.
- Sharks need a better player than Johnsson, and preference is not a LW.
- Sharks need much more forward depth.
- 500k could very much be the difference between Talbot, Greiss and Khudobin. No way SJ is retaining any sort of cap unless its on a player like Burns.</div></div>
Labanc had 33 points in this previous season, 56 the year prior, and 40 the year prior to that. Being conservative, and looking at comparables (mainly Johnsson), I think 3x3 is fair, could maybe go to 3.4 x 3, if its life or death. I personally don't think he is a 4-5M guy, but that is coming from a Canadian, who watches very little Sharks hockey.
Meier can be with Couture, thats fine. Was just using daily faceoff to get a rough outline of the team.
Gregor was listed as the 1C with injuries to Hertl/Couture, so I just stuck him at 3C, Jumbo could be there, but he would need some help.
Noesen was listed as 3RW, not sure what other injuries there were to move him up/down the lineup.
Melker Karlsson can get 700K. He is a bottom line guy for sure.
Bergmann was on the roster with all of those injuries, could likely bring up True or someone like that.
The Goal Tandem is pretty bad.
I kinda like Middleton from an outside Canadian perspective. But again that could be anyone making 700-900K
Sad that Dahlen is staying in Sweden, he could be a real stud for you
The D can be shuffled to fit needs, again, outside perspective and using Daily Faceoff for lines.
Sharks could use a 2LW. I don't see Noesen/Karlsson/Thornton filling that slot. Johnsson isn't as bad as everyone on here is making him out to be. He had a bad injury, but had a decent season up until that point. If he played a full 82, he was at 40 points.
I agree with the forward depth part... The bottom 6 is atrocious. But hey, if you are in the bottom 10, you get a nice draft pick.
500k could be a difference. Take 2M (Dell + Melker lower salary) and add it to the 3M of current space and sign Khudobin/Greiss at 4M x 4 years, and the Sorenson retention still fits.
Edit: Changed the team to address your concerns. Is this any better?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>It'd have to be Nylander + for Pesce + Foegele
Also, if you want me to read the description, gimme a Tl;dr</div></div>
The return is Pesce.<strong>I'm sorry Caniac2000.</strong> Every Leaf fan loves Pesce, because he is exactly what the Leafs need for Rielly. Hopefully Pesce elevates Rielly's game and vice versa like the Pesce-Slaavin pair does.
<strong>Some stats for Caniac2000 because I'm expecting a reply of "Reimer is a superior goalie to Andersen, this trade is awful. Jmac490 stop making Toronto and Carolina threads" </strong>
Andersen (2019/2020 stats): GP: 52 W: 29 L: 13 OTL/SOL: 7, Shots faced: 1577 SV%: .909, GAA: 2.85, SO: 3 GSAA: -0.40
Andersen (Career as a Leaf): SV%: 0.916, GAA: 2.77, GSAA: 35.6 (he shouldn't be stopping as many pucks as he is)
Andersen (Playoffs vs Columbus): SV% 0.936, GAA: 1.84
Reimer (2019/2020 stats): GP: 25, W: 14, L: 6, OTL/SOL: 2, Shots faced: 712, SV% 0.914, GAA: 2.66, SO: 3 GSAA: 3.38
Andersen would be a quality starter for the Hurricanes, while Reimer and Campbell could be 1B goalies (think Koskinen/Smith) in Toronto.
I personally feel like the skill difference between Pesce and Holl is equivalent to the skill difference between Reimer and Andersen.