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Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 7, 2023 at 1:12 p.m.
Thread: Saros to NJ
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Saros even if he's a 10 million dollar player (which isn't a guarantee with how voodoo goalies are) is still only 10 mill in surplus value. You'd be stretching me to give up 2 ELC years of holtz and then 3 RFA years+a 1st for that, let alone Vanacek and Mercer</div></div>

The goalies are voodoo argument doesn't really hold up here. Since taking over the starter's job, Saros has finished no lower than 6th in Vezina voting.He's picked up Hart votes in two of his last three seasons. He's consistently been one of the very top goalies in the NHL. He's not a Samsonov or Andersen type.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Vanacek and 1st would be main pieces of the return…maybe another prospect. But Mercer, Holtz, Nemec…don’t even bother with those guys.</div></div>

If Vanacek is being looked at as a main piece, and not a spare part so NJ can move some salary out, I don't think there's a deal to be had here.\
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 7, 2023 at 11:30 a.m.
Thread: LA still in on Saros
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dekes</b></div><div>I definitely agree on why would Nashville move in from saros when they are trying to compete. With brunette and Trotz running the show now I definitely don’t see Nashville selling…. But goalies just don’t return that much

Vilardi, Durzi, Anderson and a 1st is an extreme overpay.
No point in having a vezina goalie if you don’t have a defence infront of him.

And still saros won’t be returning a top 6 20+ goal scoring C/RW a number 4-5 offensive/ pp specialist dman a top 4 physical shutdown dman and a 1st.

Maybe more picks and prospects but what you are asking for a return is nearly 4 1sts in value and goalie just don’t get those returns</div></div>

There just really isnt any precedent for a team trading a vezina candidate goalie in his prime and contract remaining. This is pretty uncharted territory so people are either asking for the moon or working off of flawed comparisons to previous traded goalies. Saros is a top 5 goalie over the past 3 years, just turned 28, and makes just 5 million for the next 2 seasons. There just inst a direct comparable. Top end established starters just dont get traded unless there is an issue with them (age, contract, etc)