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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2023 at 4:35 p.m.
Thread: ECF Dreaming
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lancebmx</b></div><div>So let me get this straight. You pay San Jose Hanas, Maatta, a second and a fourth for Karlsson with a bunch of retention. Then you send Karlsson with a bit more retention to Carolina for Pesce, Drury, a first, a second and a fourth. Then you are like nah I don't actually want these assets and send Drury, a first and second back to Carolina. So the way I see it we paid Maatta, Hanas, a second plus we are retaining on Karlsson's contract for 4 years for Pesce? Then after all of that you state that he is gone and we don't even re-sign him? Why would we pay all that for a bit of an upgrade for one year? Besides the fact we just signed Maatta to an extension so that would be a grease ball move to trade him.
Now I look at the Seattle trade and think, wow we have 15 LHD in the system and that isn't even an exaggeration. Why are we trading for one? Also why would Seattle give up what would be one of their best defencemen? Also elite prospects rates Buchelnikov #29 before the draft of NHL top prospects. Why would we trade him for a player in a position we have an abundance for? Then you underpaid Dunn by well over a million.
Philly trade isn't close for them. Now I will say they way over value Konecny but this doesn't get it done. Fabbri has no value. McIsaac has no value really. Mastrosimone has no value since he is a UFA in a month. So really whichever first we don't send to Ottawa isn't enough and also probably not worth us sending the better of the two picks either.
Boston trade isn't close and trading guys you just signed is dogsiht thing to do.
I know you are trying to expedite winning and this might be a playoff team but it would be really bad for our future.</div></div>

Lance you need to re-read a few things. In short, I made an error that I've since fixed in the 3-way trade w/ CH and SJ. Second, I said that I think we can re-sign the youngins, ie Seider/Raymond/Berg along w/ Pesce. THAT would mean that Perron/Ghost and likely Husso are gone. Most importantly, f-ing relax dude, I'm not sure you got the memo but this is for fun, if you don't like it, don't read it.

Ps. Dunn is really good at playing defense in the NHL right now and is an unsigned RFA. Johansson and/or Ed and/or Wallinder MIGHT one day be good at playing LD in the NHL. You want to wait until they're ready? Cool, put that in your ACGM. I wanted to make one that adds a bunch of "Yzerman window" RFAs that are good NHL players to the wings to see what it would look like.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 12, 2023 at 9:42 a.m.
Thread: 3 way action
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>3x Norris Winner, but he's got one leg and is signed until he's 36 and his cap hit is still what 6.5. Unless it's less than 3, Carolina are not moving this kind of package</div></div>

3x yes, good point. You're on the ball for 6am. Here's the thing, if the rumors are true CH is battling Pitt for Karlsson. It's a win-now move and Pitt's core is old af so their window to win is now. Carolina obv isn't AS old but as you know they are really good and maybe a move like this gets them another cup.

That said, the package to get EK is going to be super expensive. I personally think trading PK is a bad idea, but like I said that's something I read. BUT, trading a good NHLer, a prospect, a 1st, 2 2nds and a 4th is not unreasonable for a 50% retained EK. To get him at 75% retained for 4 years, best guess is you're losing another 2nd at minimum, possibly a 1st. You figure most times team retain $1M for 1 year they get a 4th, so extrapolate from there if you're having a team retain $3-4M for 4 years. That's a huge ask in a flat cap.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2023 at 11:44 a.m.
Thread: Playoffs beaches
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Mhm, the DeAngelo deal will be done on the 9th after a calendar year of the trade. Chatfield then comes out of the lineup to allow DeAngelo to play on the 3rd pair with Orlov and have the babysitter he needed when he played with Slavin. Still doesn't spell a Pesce trade. The report was they'd look at moving him before the season if he didn't sign, but he wasn't eligible to announce an extension before July 1st. This makes me think I know more about the CBA, and NHL rule book than you do, which makes me think I spent too much time on Twitter and CapFriendly.</div></div>

7th, 9th close enough, but touché, you too are an NHL nerd. I don't know anything about Coughlan or Chatfield, but I assumed that one of them would be on the roster. So I guess we'll see what happens. At this point I doubt Yzerman is making any big moves, he's just treading water until our young guys are ready, but I'm impatient.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2023 at 11:02 a.m.
Thread: Playoffs beaches
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Carolina only have Burns, Pesce and Chatfield at RD... they signed Orlov, but he's a LHD. That would make Skjei expendable, not Pesce</div></div>

I'm starting to think I know more about your team's plans than you do, which makes me think I spend too much time reading NHL Twitter and capfriendly...

The "plan" that I heard was that CH are completing the trade to bring Anthony Deangelo back via trade w/ Philly. They have to wait until July 7th to avoid cap circumvention per the league. Once DA is back on your team w/ his $2.5M cap hit, plus your RFA re-signing, you will be over the cap. Plus, there have been rumors that if Pesce didn't sign an extension by 7/1 then he would be traded. No extension, and you have 4-5 NHL RD once the DA trade is done.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2023 at 10:44 a.m.
Thread: Playoffs beaches
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>It would be generous at best to call Johansson a B prospect. Maata is a cap dump. You want a guy the Canes can easily afford and want to keep but don't want to commit a deal to until he's 36. He's also a top 10 RHD in the league, one of the best DFD just flat out, and makes 4 million for that. You need a 1st and probably a Veleno to even start the conversation. This is laughed at</div></div>

I wouldn't have any issue w/ a 1st and Veleno, but I think you're way undervaluing AJ and a $3M LD. Maata+2nd is worth a middle 1st and AJ+4th is worth more than Veleno. I like Veleno but he's a 15-20 goal 3rd/4th line ceiling guy. Not sure top 10 RHD but definitely a good one and definitely making $4M which is great. But, you guys have too many RHDs in front of him, especially when you complete the Deangelo trade. If you make the Karlsson trade, I'd assume Pesce is going to SJ.