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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28, 2018 at 10:16 a.m.
Thread: New core
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jwink19</b></div><div>I think Bratt could be moved in a trade, just not this one. As of now, the Devils have 5 players signed for 20-21, with 55 mil to spend if the cap stays the same. I calculate 35 mil to be spent on Hall/Hischier/MoJo/Zacha/Wood/Vatanen/Butcher. That leaves 20 million for 11 players to fill a roster. Giving Perry 6 plus means you’re filling out the team with a bunch of cheap kids. They definitely have some good ones, but not as many as we’re looking at here. I could run a mock-up on our end using your trade and see what works. Buying out Zajac would be an option, but he brings the stuff that goes unnoticed by the casual fan, which would thus create a problem while fixing another.</div></div>

Thanks for the post!

You make some good points here. Do you think NJD would take the chance to bring in a player like Perry, who has experience, as a short term situation with his given contract length? It could serve has a good experience and could pay long term gains for a the young F core NJD has.

And you could be right about Zajac-he is a leader on the team, one that I'm sure the young players look at as an example on how to handle themselves as a pro. So dealing him might not be easy and could create some initial restlessness throughout the team. However, if they do move him, they might be able to put themselves in a situation where they could land Duchene in free agency. Bringing in Duchene, leaves your C core looking like: Hischier, Duchene, Zacha. That's pretty solid down the middle and is both a young and fast lineup-something that NJD is but is always looking to add to in the long run. Having that depth also allows McLeod to mature for a few more years if need be.

Thoughts? Thanks again!
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28, 2018 at 1:40 a.m.
Thread: New core
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28, 2018 at 12:57 a.m.
Thread: New core
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jwink19</b></div><div>Devils are not trading Bratt for a declining 34 year old that comes with a 6.5 million cap hit after retention. They have to pay Butcher, MoJo and Zacha next summer, and Hall/Hischier/Bratt in 2020.</div></div>

Thanks for the post!

I mentioned it in one of my previous posts, but my reasoning on this trade is that although Perry is older and still has a cap his of $6 mil, he brings experience and Cup experience that NJD doesn't have. You're right that the cap hit isn't ideal. But even with Perry's cap hit, NJD still has around $35 mil (maybe more with the increase in the salary cap) to sign 4 player (5 if you want to try to include Johansson) and all of those players aren't going to sign $5 mil contacts. So the team should still have some room to work with. Perry's contract is up in 20/21, so they will have cap space to sign Hischer the year after. Hall could be the tricky on and the team would have to move some money around at that point anyways to have enough money to re-sign hall to the kind of contract he will have earned.

My logic on moving Bratt is that although he looks like he was a steal of a draft pick, NJD has a good amount of skilled F's in the pipeline, that may have higher ceilings that Bratt. McLeod and Quennville are looking like they are going to be staples for their lineup in the near future. From a production standpoint NJD might be more willing to move Zacha at this point, but he is a higher draft pick and is thus, more of an investment for them. ANA would have to give up more in order to make that trade happen and Zacha has only played two years, so I think NJD would be hesitant to make that trade. But maybe they would be more willing to part ways with him and, if that were the case, ANA would still be certainly still be interested in making that deal.

What are your thought? Thanks again!
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 28, 2018 at 12:56 a.m.
Thread: New core
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 12, 2018 at 10:28 p.m.
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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2018 at 11:17 a.m.
The numbers definitely work, so good job managing that side of the puzzle.

However, I don't see a few of these signings happening in order to balance out the team. There isn't a lot of change to the back end and that serves as a bit of a mistake to me. I think TOR would be more inclined to move Gardiner for another asset, especially with the emergence of Dermontt last season. Gardiner is a top 4 D on most teams in the NHL, maybe even a top 2 on some. I could see the leafs dealing Gardiner for another W that might be able to fit into the top 6. Although TOR has a surplus and a lot of depth on the W, they could use one more piece to add to that their top 6. Maybe a player like Skinner, Eberle, Silfverberg or possibly Wayne Simmons (all are UFA's at the end of the year, like Gardiner.

My thoughts about the back end is that TOR may have to deal one of their W's to add a key piece. Ideally TOR would be able to trade Kapanen, but I think it might come down to trading Nylander for a player or players. A trade that might make sense is TOR making a trade with NJD, Nylander for Severson and Bratt. Severson has term on his contact and Bratt is a young rising W, with promsing playmaking ability. Severson has proven to be a top 4 D, with good DZ stats and can produce offensively. Another trade partner might be CAR- Nylander for Faulk and Rask, might be one possibility. Rask has term and Faulk has another year on is contract before he is a UFA. That trade might not happen though because CAR's new owner is rumor to not wanting to pay his players premier salaries. Thus the Hanifiin and Lindholm being dealt. As much as I would like Nylander to stay in TOR because he is a key piece to their front end, I think TOR may have to move him to make some significant changes on the back. Nylander may take a team friendly discount and be open to following the TBL model and if that's the case, then TOR is going to be pretty scary. And Maybe Dubas can work some magic to move Kapanen for pieces on the back, we'll have to see.

Sorry for the novel haha. What are your thoughts?
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2018 at 10:41 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mothariah</b></div><div>Ottawa will get at least one first round pick even is Ryan is included because Karlsson is that good.

I think something like a 1st, a 2nd, Timo Meier, Chris Tierney, Dillon, and another prospect would get the job done for SJ.

I know everyone wants to put Erik Karlsson with the Sharks, and as a hard core Sharks fan, I do too, but that is a LOT to give up for a guy who has been hurt a lot lately, and is arguable the same player as Brent Burns (Karlsson is much better in his own end). I don't think he's worth it for a team that hasn't been able to find any young top six players of late.</div></div>

Thanks for the comment.

I agree, that would be a good amount to pay for Karlsson. Even though his is one of the top 5 D-men in the league, the fact that he is a UFA is a factor when giving up a haul like that. Hopefully part of the negotiations with Karlsson include talks of an extension prior to making the trade. Otherwise, I think that is too much of a gamble to give up, even for a player as good as Karlsson.

My thoughts are that SJS would a little more leverage in the deal if they are taking on the the Bobby Ryan contract. The fact that OTT is hell-bent on pair both players together in a deal, can serve as a bargaining chip for whatever team is agreeing to take on the long term contract of Ryan. I think that you're right in that, they would probably have to give up another blue chip prospect, other than the ones that I have listed. But I'm with you and if OTT is going to stubborn enough to keep waiting for a deal like the one you presented, I think they are going to come up short and lose Karlsson for nothing. I think OTT might be able to get a better or more realistic deal if they trade Karlsson by himself.

I hear comparisons of OTT wanting to wait things out like Sakic did when he made his deals in the Duchene trade. I think they are two very different scenarios. One key factor is that Duchene had two years left on his contract at the time of his trade and doesn't have too heavy of a contract for a team to take on. A second is that COL wasn't attempting to pair Duchene with another very heavy contract with massive term.

What are your thoughts?

Thanks again!
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 30, 2018 at 3:55 p.m.
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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 27, 2018 at 11:45 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 27, 2018 at 10:18 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wagsnags</b></div><div>Thanks for the detailed reply instead of just..... 'u suck go sit in the corner..... I know I suck but I do not like the corner....

In relation to Grubs.... The Capitals will be up against the cap and could be over it when &amp; if they sign Carlson..... so spending $3,333,3333 on a backup goalie is not smart fiscal management. The backup goalie market will be in the $2,000,000 - $2,500,000 level and yes that difference to Greiss coap hit is significant. I also think that there are other teams that would be willing to make an offer for Grubs.

On to ROR..... the Sabres are not in a position to be competitive in 18/19. What they need to do is set themselves up to be playoff participants in 19/20 and contenders in 20/21 and beyond. In order for this to happen they will need to do the following:

1. Draft Dahlin #1;
2. Have a solid #2C on the roster to be able to teach Mittelstadt &amp; Eich how to play center in the NHL;
3. The #2C has to be able to play in their defensive zone;
4. The #2C has to be able to play on the PK &amp; PP;
5. The #2C has to be able to handle high leverage situations and face offs;

The Sabres make a big mistake expecting Mittelstadt to be that #2C in 18/19. He eventually will be that #2C but for this year he needs to stay as the #3C so he can develop and mature. The key for him is to learn how a true legit center in the NHL has to play for teams to be successful.

Do you see where I am going in all this...... the player I have described is ROR..... so he is already on your roster..... if GMBots is entertaining trading ROR he has to be saying to himself in order to move him it has to be an overpay from the other club as this season ROR is very important to the future success of the Sabres.

Now play it out..... ROR stays with the Sabres in 18/19 he has his normal year..... 80 games played 25 goals 35 assists for 60 points.... plays PK, PP and is one of the highest face off % players in the NHL all while helping the development of Mittelsadt. So a year from now ROR's value is about the same and may be higher if he does not say anything foolish in his exit interview. ROR has no NTC in his contract you can deal him at anytime.

The Sabres have plenty of cap room in 18/19, 19/20 &amp; 20/21..... then it starts to get dicey for them so there is no urgency because of the cap. In the same respect GMBots has to be very careful not to sign a UFA this year to a ROR or Okposo type of deal as it could cost them the ability to sign a core foundational piece in 5 years.

Therefore ROR true value to the Sabres is quite high and as mikeysav in order for a team to get ROR that team will have to start with a #1 pick, a top prospect &amp; a roster player if not more.

let me know what you think.....</div></div>


Thanks guys! Really interesting stuff. Really appreciate the input!
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 26, 2018 at 5:04 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wagsnags</b></div><div>Well I can say that you will not have ROR on your team if all you are sending to the Sabres is Ho-Sang (who I really like but I know that Snowy is not a fan.... my guess is Sweet Lou will not pick this Hill to Die on) and the rights to Brock.

I think you are going to have to pay Grubs more than $2,000,000 &amp; no way Washington will want Greiss back in a deal since he counts $3,333,333 against the cap.</div></div>


Thanks for the response.

I think maybe a third round pick could be included into the ROR trade. But why do you think Ho-Sang, Nelson and a third round pick, isn't a high enough value to carry out the trade? Moving ROR gives BUF significant cap relief, getting Neslon gives them 3rd line C that gives the team strong secondary scoring and help in the DZ/PK, and Ho-Sang has tons of skill and potential-BUF would be a good team for him to be able to play a bigger role with less restrictions or fear of being demoted to the minors to see what he's really going to be at the NHL level.

Greiss only has two more years on his contract. Having him on the roster gives Samsinov time to play in the AHL for a year and get used to NA game. Moving Grubauer gives WSH a good back up, would have to pay Grubauer about the same to keep him, maybe more. NYI can get away with playing him $2 million on one-year deal because he is still an unproven starter. This would be a situation for him to be able to prove his worth and earn a bigger contact. Raanta had to do the same thing in ARI this season and had comparable numbers to Grubauer, as an unproven starter/great number 2.

Let me know what you think, agree or disagree. Would like to hear more of your input. Thanks!
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 14, 2018 at 12:44 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Claesson4Norris</b></div><div>Sens are not even going to consider that. A talented winger with attitude problems, a 1st and a 24 year old prospect at a position the sens are already deep at. not enough. If the sens can't get a young RHD for the future I can't see a deal getting done. With New York, that would be Quenneville, and that would likely be a non starter with Isles fans</div></div>

Thanks for the post. It's hard to tell the real reasons why NYI isn't playing Ho-Sang, we get the speculations from the media. Weight has come out and said that he wanted him on the team more this season when he addressed the media, so who knows what's going on in NY behind the scenes. The one thing that is a fact is that Ho-Sang has brought value and production to the NYI line up when he's be in. A new start could be good for both parties.

You make some good points about the Karlsson trade. I could see OTT asking for Quenneville. The reason I through Teows into the trade is because he is knocking on the door is NHL ready or very damn close. Quenneville would need more time to develop and it's still hard to say how well he'll do at the pro level because of his size. He's not a burner or an exceptional skater as a undersized D, but has a great IQ and a massive shot. But mobility is typically a must for smaller D to be able to make it at the NHL level. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Quenneville fan and I think he'll do well, but he's still unproven. And I'm honestly not trying to be rude when I say this, but I don't think OTT is deep in any position. I think you're right in that D might be the strongest of their positions, but they could certainly use more help there and everywhere. Also- a 12th overall pick, along with OTT already having the 3rd overall pick is very valuable, so you have to factor that into the trade as well.

What is your specific ideal trade for Karlsson? Just curious to hear your thoughts. Thanks!
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 13, 2018 at 8:56 p.m.