Doesn't work with the cap, no room for injuries

Sens are not even going to consider that. A talented winger with attitude problems, a 1st and a 24 year old prospect at a position the sens are already deep at. not enough. If the sens can't get a young RHD for the future I can't see a deal getting done. With New York, that would be Quenneville, and that would likely be a non starter with Isles fans

I think you’ll need to add more to the Tampa trade...

Thanks for the post. It's hard to tell the real reasons why NYI isn't playing Ho-Sang, we get the speculations from the media. Weight has come out and said that he wanted him on the team more this season when he addressed the media, so who knows what's going on in NY behind the scenes. The one thing that is a fact is that Ho-Sang has brought value and production to the NYI line up when he's be in. A new start could be good for both parties.

You make some good points about the Karlsson trade. I could see OTT asking for Quenneville. The reason I through Teows into the trade is because he is knocking on the door is NHL ready or very damn close. Quenneville would need more time to develop and it's still hard to say how well he'll do at the pro level because of his size. He's not a burner or an exceptional skater as a undersized D, but has a great IQ and a massive shot. But mobility is typically a must for smaller D to be able to make it at the NHL level. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Quenneville fan and I think he'll do well, but he's still unproven. And I'm honestly not trying to be rude when I say this, but I don't think OTT is deep in any position. I think you're right in that D might be the strongest of their positions, but they could certainly use more help there and everywhere. Also- a 12th overall pick, along with OTT already having the 3rd overall pick is very valuable, so you have to factor that into the trade as well.

What is your specific ideal trade for Karlsson? Just curious to hear your thoughts. Thanks!

Thanks for the post. Very possible that TBL would ask for more. The main reason for the trade would be clear cap room for TBL. They also get a veteran player who brings grit and cup experience. His best scoring days are probably behind him, but he could still be effective in a secondary scoring role.

What are your suggestions for adding to the trade? Thanks!

Maybe the dman you go from Toronto? Carrick?

I totally disagree about the sens not being deep at any position. At LD and at Centre they have a lot of good players in the pipe. Centre there is Logan Brown who was bending the OHL over a barrel in the playoffs before the Rangers were eliminated, White who's looked pretty good at the World Championship, Batherson who was the leading scorer in the QMJHL playoffs. they also have a good supply of Left handed defensemen with Wolanin being the clear standout. I will admit the cupboards are pretty bare at every other position, especially at RHD.

As for an Ideal trade, I don't think I'd trade with the Islanders but if I had to maybe, Quenneville, Hosang, the 12th and two 2nds? for Karlsson and Condon. Condon had a .902, but that is because the Sens penalty kill absolutely sewered his numbers. He put up a .920 at 5 on 5, which is fantastic considering just how bad the sens were defensively this year. that would still leave you with the Greiss problem, but you'd at least have one goalie figured out for next year.

Edit: I make all my trades on the assumption that Karlsson agrees to sign 8 years at 10 million.

I just can't see that there are many teams that are going to give a lot of acquire Karlsson. Isles still could finish out of the playoffs, and then they have given up a whole lot of young assets for one year of Karlsson And looking at the cap, the Isles wouldn't likely have cap to resign Karlsson anyway. Then you put in the useless clause. "Karlsson agrees to an extension". What's in for EK? So rarely happens....Make the trade for one year only.
I even at that in this post, you've traded a bunch of high price players that probably no other teams wants.....Griess, Ladd, even NMC Boychuk..

So, while people are on LTIR, the players you recall to replace them are counted as part of their cap hit,a s long as they earn less than them.

Adding vets who tend to play most of the games in a season is the main way this roster is improved. This year only Pelech and Leddy played 70+ games. Karlsson has played 70+ games, eventhrough well publicized injuries, the last five straight years. He shows up and does something. Orpik has played 70+ games in four out of the last five. Pulock was a rookie last year and may have the durability to play a full slate.

Whether or not Washington takes a cr@p deal that pretends that, just because they can't afford them, the league's best backup goalie and the guy currently leading playoff defensemen in +/-, who's also top ten in hits and shot blocks and top 40 in points, has negative value. He doesn't. Orpik's worth a 3rd because even though he's made the second round in six straight years by always improving under pressure (and taken the shot that got his team out of the first round in two of these six years), he's really old and only plays 3rd pair. Grubauer's worth a 1st.

But regardless of the trade values, you've gotten the Isles defense much more durable and consistent. That's going to make a big difference.

Johnson might be overpaid but he can at least produce, unlike Ladd

Johnson trade is a joke and if tavares is staying he gets an 8th year and more money

No reason for the Avs to trade for Boychuk even with retention. Not a good fit.

Ya, that's not how the league works though. If some guy has the flu you don't put him on LTIR. If someone has a mild muscle pull or something you can't just put him on LTIR. LTIR has to be a certain number of days. This happened with the Devils a few years ago when they still had Kovalchuk. They were so tight against the cap that when they had a few minor injuries, they wound up playing a game with only 9 forwards.

This roster doesn't work with the cap.