Claesson4Norris

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Forum: Armchair-GM4 hours ago
Thread: What is The Price For Strome
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>I like Pinto! I'm not saying you're wrong AT ALL. What I'm saying is Koekkoek was a #10 OA pick and you're also probably correct that he wasn't quite good enough to push anyone out of that STOCKED defensive unit, but that's exactly my point. These kids have ONE career and if I'm that kid. I HAVE to be thinking what's the best position I can put myself in for success. It's why Kevin Hayes, Will Butcher, Vesey, the list goes on...stayed in college. As fans, we want all our prospects to play on our team. We're fans. I just don't think he specifically (unless this summer) is going to stay. There's just way too much risk from his point of view.</div></div>

Either way, that's not a decision you make when he's 19, coming off a wicked rookie season. That's a conversation you have when the time comes.
Forum: Armchair-GM5 hours ago
Thread: What is The Price For Strome
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>With regards to Shane Pinto, but even then...let's say he signs THIS SUMMER. He's still an RFA until he's 25 competing with an already stocked farm system and ELEVEN 1st/2nd rounders this year/next. Now the opposite, let's say he doesn't sign this summer. Then he has 2 years @ UND...vs 3+ with OTT and all the previous negatives (from HIS player development point of view) already mentioned.

***EDIT*** It's kind of ironic we're talking about Koekkoek. I didn't mean for this to happen, but Pinto's story can be the exact same and Koekkoek's story. Just no place for him on the NHL team. So, he gets low minutes or healthy scratch or Belleville. Where we both (I'm assuming) believe he has REAL NHL talent.</div></div>

Koekkoek is a fringe NHL player. He was never quite good enough to push anyone out of the lineup. Pinto looks like he will be.
Forum: Armchair-GM6 hours ago
Thread: What is The Price For Strome
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>This issue with this isn't about how good Tychonick can be. He might be great. The issue is that this probably isn't what the Hawks would be looking for. The Hawks right now have (3) guys that THEY believe are NHLers that are on the 1st year of the ELC or about to start. We can argue whether they are or not, but the Hawks believe they have this more so than a true top 6 winger.

Just talking out loud. Maybe it's too much...maybe not. You tell me.

Strome and Koekkoek (I'll explain) - Tierney, Shane Pinto, OTT 2nd. I do think that's ALOT to ask for. BUT it's not too far off of <a href="/users/Claesson4Norris" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Claesson4Norris</a> comment of Tierney, Tychonick, and a 2nd.

Strome is the prize in the trade. Not sure I need to explain more on him.

Koekkoek can be a very serviceable Dman that's cost controlled. He played really well for the Hawks last year and was stuck in TBL's defensive backlog for years. He never had a real chance despite being drafted #10 OA. OTT can take advantage of this situation because CHI needs to shed the number of Dmen they have. They want to give Ian Mitchell a TRUE shot at the NHL. That's how they'll get him to sign.

Tierney - is a lower ceiling version of Strome. He'd be the Hawks true #3C. does a good job at the dot and hopefully he'll sign a longer term deal for a reasonable contract. Otherwise it'll be arbitration and then a UFA. I hope it wouldn't come to that, but that's the downside of Tierney....leaving...

Shane Pinto - I think you've heard me on this band wagon already. I don't think he signs with OTT. That's my opinion. Sorry. It really doesn't have anything negative to do with OTT. It's all about...How many STUD prospects does OTT have? LOTS. Oh and (3) 1sts. If I'm Shane Pinto...my quickest path to the NHL is likely NOT going through Belleville. Fighting against all those other 1st rounders. It's likely putting my career into my own hands.

OTT 2nd - It clearly could be a different pick. It's just that (7) picks in the 1st (2) rounders. Wow that's incredible. OTT should try to use some of these in a trade @ the Draft. Picks are a premium at the draft. Players a premium @ the TDL. If you keep trading the appropriate pieces when they're at the "high" you should win in the long run.</div></div>

I'm not trading Pinto at this point. I think he's going to find a spot for a long time in Ottawa.

I disagree entirely with your assessment that free agency is the quickest path to the NHL. that would mean he's three years at UND before that's even an option. Whereas in Ottawa, he's one more year max before he's turning pro, He might even go pro this summer, though I doubt it. By the time he turns pro as free agent, he could already be off of his ELC in Ottawa.

Also in terms of the Strome trade, I don't think it's smart to give one of our top prospects. I would rather trade one of our less valuable prospects, and add a 3rd or something if needed.

Tierney, Abramov and a 2nd and 3rd?

Also I like koekkoek (his cousin was my math teacher lol) but he's not more than a 7th d in Ottawa.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 hours ago
Thread: If Byfield isnt NHL ready
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>There's $18.5M in cap space. Byfield playing an extra year in junior will cause his deal to slide. That $6M literally means nothing to the Senators. Worst-case scenario, Ryan's expiring deal pays for Brannstrom's next contract and the marginal raise that Duclair will need. Anisimov's deal will cover half of Tkachuk's raise. Batherson and Brown can split the Nilsson money on a bridge deal. There's absolutely no reason for the Senators to turn down Turris because he's "too expensive".

You're giving up a #3C and a ruined prospect for a guy who could step back into being a top center for this team. What the hell am I missing?</div></div>

It doesn't make sense to trade for four years of Kyle Turris when you only want him for one year. By next season you're already paying him to be your 3rd or 4th Centre.

Just because the cap space is there now, doesn't mean you have to fill it with a bloated contract.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 hours ago
Thread: The Quinton Byfield Era Starts Now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>He's still 17, and will be until August. And you're proposal pits him against the best on the world, not the best within 2 years of him. Huge, huge difference. I don't think it would be fair to him to throw him into the deep end like this. He'll be there soon enough, and for many years to come, but I would send him back to the OHL for a year if I were GM.</div></div>

I think there's a chance that he's sent back for sure. I think he will be given the opportunity to make it, and with his size and his skill I think there's a good chance he'll be able to hang as an NHL player.

I'm going not suggesting he's going to walk in and be a 40 goal, 70-90 point guy, but I think he has the capacity to put up 15-20 goals and maybe 40 points as a rookie.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 4:41 pm
Thread: The Quinton Byfield Era Starts Now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Copenhagen</b></div><div>Does anyone have concern about him being NHL ready?</div></div>

With players that young (he only made the cutoff for the 2020 draft by like 3 weeks) there's always concern, even with the truly elite players. It's hard to play in the NHL at barely 18. Where Byfield sets himself apart is in his size. At 6'4 215lbs he's probably the most physically developed prospect despite being one of the youngest in the draft. Physically he's a grown man already. He's probably more physically ready than Brady Tkachuk was, and his big draft asset was how physically ready he was for the NHL

He might get another year in the OHL, but I suspect he's at the very least ready to walk in and play as a top 9 forward, even if he's not dominant immediately.