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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 2:48 p.m.

Thread: Blockbuster with Wild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jamiepo</b></div><div>No they will be right there waiting for them on their new team. Try to think of salaries as a whole across the league. The lower amount X is then the happier the owners are.</div></div>

I think the assumption that the unique offer sheet scenario will have a material impact on all salaries is wrong. These are very rare scenarios. Just because you overpay a guy in an offer sheet does not mean the next guy in free agency gets to ask for more money than he would otherwise.

Everything should be looked at subjectively. What a guy signs to extend somewhere cannot be compared to what a guy signs in free agency. Leverage will dictate the dollar, not necessarily the players ability. If Marner gets $12M in an offer sheet, that doesn't mean Aho extends with CAR @ $12M in a year from now. (Not a perfect example but you know what I'm getting at).

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 2:42 p.m.

Thread: Blockbuster with Wild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>biglite351</b></div><div>A bridge deal is 1 year, maybe 2 if the guy is still mostly "potential" and he thinks he needs a little more time to become top notch. Marner has 61, 69 and 94 points... 1 year if he really wants to help the team get past a sticky cap situation, but that is it, and frankly no reason for him to even do 1. 3 is unicorn town. Especially if it is so that they can afford to bring Zucker in at $5.5M.</div></div>

This is what I'm saying. There is no benefit to Marner to bridge for 3 years at less than what he's worth. It's nice for Leafs fans, but makes really no sense for Marner. He's proven what he wanted to prove. Oh, and you told Tavares when he signed he'd have Marner flanking him...

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 2:41 p.m.

Thread: Blockbuster with Wild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>But would they?
Low-key, I actually hope they would. They massively overperformed this season and 4 unprotected 1sts + an overpaid Marner crippling their cap situation? YES PLEASE!</div></div>

You need to put yourself in their shoes. Some teams have to overpay. The Leafs don't, the Rangers don't... but some cold weather cities and some secondary markets do.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 2:38 p.m.

Thread: Blockbuster with Wild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jamiepo</b></div><div>No... GM’s and Owners have a shared intrest in keeping salaries low. If everyone starts firing offersheets back and forth like cannons you will accomplish little other than inflating costs...</div></div>

If a GM in a market that struggles to find super stars has an opportunity to get one, they should do it. By the time these offer sheets materially impact salary inflation, half the GMs in the league will be elsewhere.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 2:37 p.m.

Thread: Blockbuster with Wild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>No one is dumb enough to overpay Marner that much.</div></div>

I think you'll be surprised. Not everyone has the forward firepower the Leafs do. And not everyone has a desirable market to sign in.

That would be the price say, the Islanders would have to pay.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 2:34 p.m.

Thread: Blockbuster with Wild

Remember when we heard Nylander wanted Pastranak money and everyone laughed cause he had no leverage?

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 2:33 p.m.

Thread: Blockbuster with Wild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>True, but offersheets never happen for a reason.
Remember that these GM's have to work together, and if they are renting barns to fight in...</div></div>

Haha yes, that is true.

I still think treating Marner as if he has no leverage is silly. He can get 7 x 12 next season on the open market. I can't imagine he has any interest in signing a bridge deal. He's going to want a lockout protected long term deal. All I've heard from his camp is that he has no interest in leaving money on the table, nor should he - Matthews and Nylander didn't, why should he.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 2:28 p.m.

Thread: Blockbuster with Wild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>He is an RFA with no rights.
He literally has no leverage, it is by design.</div></div>

If you wanted to bridge Marner, it should have been a year ago. Sure, he doesn't have arb rights, neither did Nylander. You have a landscape in the NHL right now that is more primed for an offer sheet than ever before. I'd be very careful in playing hardball with Marner.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 2:26 p.m.

Thread: Marner RFA

Why wouldn't the Leafs match 1 year at 10.5?

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 2:25 p.m.

Thread: Blockbuster with Wild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>I mean, Matthews offered Dubas 3@9 and Dubas declined so...</div></div>

It's all about timing... you've waited too long on Marner. He has all the leverage in the world.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 2:22 p.m.

Thread: Blockbuster with Wild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>Not OP but,
Have you heard the term bridge deal?</div></div>

Yes, I think you've mistaken what a bridge deal is. It's not where they take less term and less money so they can prove something they've already proved.

Have you heard of the term "team friendly deal that would never ever happen".

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 2:20 p.m.

Thread: only if

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rangers300</b></div><div>thats why its called "only if" im aware it would never happen</div></div>

I see..

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 2:19 p.m.

Thread: Blockbuster with Wild

Why does Marner sign for less years AND less money than he wants?

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 2:17 p.m.

Thread: only if

Never in a million years do the Devils trade out of 1st to the back half of the draft, all for 1 year of Kreider.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 1:58 p.m.

Thread: Colorado

This is just fantasy land, but the offer actually isn't that insane. I was laughing until I saw the 1st round pick. Still, would never happen.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 1:56 p.m.

Thread: NYR what would it take

The Rangers have no appetite for another goaltender. This is essentially Kakko for Drouin in my mind... and no thanks, x 10.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 1:55 p.m.

Thread: Draft Day Trade-COL fans whatcha think

I don't think Namestnikov carries the kind of value some people expect.

He's a dime a dozen, no need to pay up for if you're COL.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 1:53 p.m.

Thread: after that kakko showing if hughes falls now

Arizona doing the Rangers a pretty nice favor there...

No way Shattenkirk waives for that.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 1:05 p.m.

Thread: Hughes Falls

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BSpadaro83</b></div><div>you see Kaapo today? making clowns of the Canadian senior team all day. Hughes inst 100%. Maybe 85% but def a live chance they go Kakko.</div></div>

Neither here nor there. Petterson + an addtl 1st is too much.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 12:39 p.m.

Thread: WHAT WE NEED TO DO

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KennyBoi</b></div><div>bruh its not for free read the trade ?‍♂️</div></div>

Your right, I missed the part where your proposal just says "trade someone for our biggest problem". Very insightful.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 12:26 p.m.

Thread: WHAT WE NEED TO DO

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KennyBoi</b></div><div>its not literally anaheim, its any team in the league. its only anaheim cause its the first team in the list</div></div>

Why would any team in the league take on your biggest cap problem for free? They're just in the mood to do them a favor or something?

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 11:43 a.m.

Thread: NYR buyout Marleau leafs re-sign

Also, why would Kapanen accept a bridge for less money than he expects to get in arbitration?

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 11:43 a.m.

Thread: NYR buyout Marleau leafs re-sign

Not sure I understand why the Rangers would do that.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 11:06 a.m.

Thread: just ditch them

I understand the goal of ridding these cap constraints, but I think you need to understand that the Rangers need to pay to make that happen - not the team accepting the bad contract.

You might be able to get a 3rd for Namestnikov. Maybe.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2019 at 11:03 a.m.

Thread: ZUUUUUUCC

A first round pick for your backup goalie that is heading to the AHL and Vesey.

A premier prospect and a 2nd (or 1st!) for 1 year of Chris Kreider.

Anything for Brendan Smith.

lol

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